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re: Landing the big fish is all about timing...
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:07 pm to lsu777
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:07 pm to lsu777
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WTF makes yall think that a program that historically has been much much more successful than LSU is suddenly goign to suck in the SEC.
Because in the 20 years since they’ve been more successful we’ve won 3 NCs. Beating them 2 times en route.
You know what has also happened in the last 20 years?
Every high school recruit was born.
They’re 6 titles before 1985 don’t mean shite to a fricking 18 year old.
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:12 pm to PillPusher
Got news for you pillPusher, Tucker ain’t losing four of his last five. It will be quite the opposite, I bet he wins three (3) of his last five.
I get it that it’s a small sample size but that dude is a damn good coach.
After he beats Maryland Purdue and Michigan/PSU, Mel Tucker will be the Big Ten coach of the year and a finalist for national coach of the year.
All that said, no idea if he ends up in Baton Rouge but my money would be on either him or Billy Napier being our next head coach. Just the way I see it anyway
I get it that it’s a small sample size but that dude is a damn good coach.
After he beats Maryland Purdue and Michigan/PSU, Mel Tucker will be the Big Ten coach of the year and a finalist for national coach of the year.
All that said, no idea if he ends up in Baton Rouge but my money would be on either him or Billy Napier being our next head coach. Just the way I see it anyway
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:15 pm to Chicken
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does he have the fire to compete in the SEC?
I think it would be worth asking him that. Stoops is a hall of fame coach. He knows what it takes to win and if he's up to it. He might not be here a decade, but he'd step in and legitimize our coaching staff for the first time since Saban left. (exception being Aranda), he'd recruit right away, bring some positive attention to the program, likely compete for championship quickly, and hand it off to the next guy in better shape in 5-6 years.
Lol at the fools thinking LSU is too good for a Hall of fame coach after the clowns we've trotted out there on saturdays.
Chicken, all im saying is next time you're having brunch with Scott Woodward, run it past him.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:17 pm to monsterballads
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Woodward is not hiring a lower tier coach
Ok then who do you think he hires?
Chicken said forget about Riley. What other big fish white whale do you see?
By lower tier I meant from a lower school not a worse coach. I think they end up with Napier when it is all said and done and he will have success.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:30 pm to Chicken
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Landing the big fish is all about timing
I agree completely. Saban isn't the HC at Alabama if Shula has a bad year in 2005. Alabama just happened to be looking for a HC at the same time Saban had grown tired of the NFL.
Ohio St. did not want to lose Jim Tressell in 2010. They were forced into it. And because Tressell left in in May of 2011 they could not hire a noteworthy HC in time for the upcoming season. So they played the 2011 season under an interim coach. During that same 2011 season there was a 2x national championship winning coach who was sitting out of coaching for that year. He also happened to be an Ohio native. Following the 2011 season OSU was looking for a permanent HC and that coach was looking for a job. Enter Urban Meyer.
And speaking of opportune timing, there is one potential HC not on your list. Even without the butthole digging incident it didn't look like Urban was fitting in well in Jacksonville or the NFL. That same team is now sitting at 1-5 with no real sense they will perform much better the rest of the way. Perhaps their HC, who had great success in college football, is also realizing he's not a "NFL guy"...like a current HC residing in Tuscaloosa, AL did in 2006.
The list of HCs currently alive who have won 3 national championships is pretty small. Assuming the one currently employed by Alabama isn't looking to move west and the two others (Tom Osborne and Barry Switzer) aren't looking to get back into coaching at 85 years old, that leaves one guy who could be looking for a new job next season......
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:32 pm to PoppaD
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Chicken said forget about Riley
he's one if not the top target that would make sense. I don't think you can "forget" about him.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:39 pm to Chicken
Yeah it was more about their realistic potential to win a national title under Stoops. There came a point somewhere around 2010 or so that they were no longer looked at as a serious player that could realistically win the whole thing like they were in the 2000’s. The program certainly didn’t tank or anything or even slip much, but their own fans were kind of tired of yeah we’re really good but we know the season doesn’t end with a national title, those days have passed…if that makes sense. The SEC’s best team (whoever that was ina given year) basically took Oklahoma’s place as the “team to beat” on a path to a title. The rise of the SEC to prominence in a way dethroned Stoops and Oklahoma as the big dog.
The argument could be made that still holds true under Riley.
The argument could be made that still holds true under Riley.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:46 pm to Chicken
If no Riley, then Aranda or Campbell with the preference on Aranda. One of these three. Make it happen Chicken!
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:49 pm to Alt26
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Ohio St. did not want to lose Jim Tressell in 2010. They were forced into it. And because Tressell left in in May of 2011 they could not hire a noteworthy HC in time for the upcoming season. So they played the 2011 season under an interim coach. During that same 2011 season there was a 2x national championship winning coach who was sitting out of coaching for that year. He also happened to be an Ohio native. Following the 2011 season OSU was looking for a permanent HC and that coach was looking for a job. Enter Urban Meyer.
Im pretty sure this was all negotiated behind closed doors to make the timing right. Thats why they put Fickell as interim for a year-they had already agreed with Urban. It was widely believed that Urban wasnt done coaching and would take the OSu or Notre Dame job , whichever opened up first.
But i do agree with your post. timing is everything and urban should at least get a call to monitor his interest.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:51 pm to Chicken
Not saying this won’t happen, but it does absolutely fly in the face of all previous Scotty hires. I for one will be surprised if you are right.
With that, I don’t know whom Scotty is targeting, but this is his biggest football hire up to this point in his career. Landing one of those guys just doesn’t seem logical to me.
As for Peterson, his is a very interesting situation. They were pretty close from the beginning at Udub. Peterson is absolutely a West Coast guy, but he’s certainly smart enough to know to surround himself with SEC people.
Peterson will be contacted no doubt. What he did for Udub was monumental. I’m just not sure if he’s willing to stick his toe back in the water. Also, his replacement at Udub is a clown. So there’s that. Possible reunite? They left on good terms to say the least.
So, with all this speculation, my pick is Peterson. I have no sources whatsoever. I just know their previous relationship while at Udub. If anyone can get him again, it’s Scotty.
Geaux Tigers!!
With that, I don’t know whom Scotty is targeting, but this is his biggest football hire up to this point in his career. Landing one of those guys just doesn’t seem logical to me.
As for Peterson, his is a very interesting situation. They were pretty close from the beginning at Udub. Peterson is absolutely a West Coast guy, but he’s certainly smart enough to know to surround himself with SEC people.
Peterson will be contacted no doubt. What he did for Udub was monumental. I’m just not sure if he’s willing to stick his toe back in the water. Also, his replacement at Udub is a clown. So there’s that. Possible reunite? They left on good terms to say the least.
So, with all this speculation, my pick is Peterson. I have no sources whatsoever. I just know their previous relationship while at Udub. If anyone can get him again, it’s Scotty.
Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:52 pm to Chicken
I think it comes down to Napier or Riley. I think they’re similar candidates, one’s just doing it on a bigger stage. Though Riley dominating the Big 12 just to get crushed in the first round doesn’t do much for me. His QB development does though.
I’d be fine with Riley or Napier. hoping for an offensive minded coach
I’d be fine with Riley or Napier. hoping for an offensive minded coach
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:54 pm to Chicken
I would like Chris Petersen because at Boise he had blue turf and we could do purple and gold turf to match uniforms, would be awesome
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:55 pm to Chicken
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Kiffin? Ole Miss can pay him a lot of money
I wonder if he'd still come. Agreed on Orgeron though. That'd be pretty awkward to get your buddy's old job and do a better job at it.
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Franklin? He won 9 games twice at Vanderbilt, which should automatically put him in the College Football Hall of Fame. T
Yes please. But not sure if he's coming.
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Tucker and Aranda? They haven't been head coaches at same place for more than 2 years...is this enough sample size to get you to hand over the keys to the LSU program?
Aranda is a good coach. Tucker is a nobody.
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Dabo? Not sure why his name is coming up...perhaps its to win a title at a different school, but seems as far-fetched as Lincoln Riley.
Please god no. He apparently isn't an X's and O's guy. We've had enough of that. Plus his evangelical BS is so cringe.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:56 pm to public_enemy
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offensive minded coach
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:01 pm to BEATIGER
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Because they routinely get curb stomped by SEC teams in the playoffs, dude
So twice is "routinely" now?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:04 pm to Chicken
I think Campbell would be a heck of a hire given the big fish don’t want to make a move. I also think he’d be better than Franklin. Very similar to Saban in that he has had success and was the #2 school even in his own state.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:34 pm to JClsutigerfan
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A&M has been a middle of the pack SEC team since they joined except for last year when they had tons of seniors in a weird COVID year. Yeah this year they beat Bama but they also have lost two games already.
yea which is much better than they were in the Big 12 lol
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:39 pm to Chicken
Most power 5 HC jobs aren't LSU.
Still not enough reason to simply "forget about" Riley. You say timing is important then perhaps they drop a game and don't make the playoffs. Highly unlikely, but we shall see.
I almost wonder if this forget about it stuff is actually to try and protect it from not happening.
If not Riley I still wish they would go Freeze, but I understand he is not on the list for his past transgressions.
I also don't see how Kiffin's ties to O would prevent him from getting the job. I think he would much rather be at LSU than Ole Miss.
Still not enough reason to simply "forget about" Riley. You say timing is important then perhaps they drop a game and don't make the playoffs. Highly unlikely, but we shall see.
I almost wonder if this forget about it stuff is actually to try and protect it from not happening.
If not Riley I still wish they would go Freeze, but I understand he is not on the list for his past transgressions.
I also don't see how Kiffin's ties to O would prevent him from getting the job. I think he would much rather be at LSU than Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:49 pm to Chicken
Chicken, sell me on why it wont be Riley
I'll hang up and listen
I'll hang up and listen
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:56 pm to lsu777
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WTF makes yall think that a program that historically has been much much more successful than LSU is suddenly goign to suck in the SEC.
said the same shite about A&M and yall were wrong then.
OU will elevate the program. They may be behind Bama and UGA right away but thats it.
Next tier would be LSU, A&M, Texas, Florida, OU
bottom half of the SEC??? Are you frickign retarded, jesus christ
I have seen a lot of terrible posts on this site. This one is up there
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