- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
I think the Riley brothers’ career progressions are hilarious
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:33 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:33 am
It’s so obvious that both of them are A.) very savvy at planning their careers, and B.) total beta pussies who have no desire to compete or win at the highest level. If it were just Lincoln or just Garrett I’d think that it may be a coincidence, but they’re both following essentially the same exact career paths:
-Both had stints under very well respected Texas coaches at schools with reasonably low expectations and weaker competition levels to get their feet wet (SMU for Garrett, Texas Tech for Lincoln)
-Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail (SMU, ECU)
-Both made moves to extremely well established programs that are/were generally head and shoulders above the competition in weak conferences with aging head coaches (Oklahoma, Clemson)
-Lincoln ended up coasting to the head job at Oklahoma and took over a turnkey powerhouse program built by Bob Stoops, and I’d bet my life that Garrett will take over at Clemson after Dabo retires.
-As soon as Oklahoma decided that they were going to move to the SEC, Lincoln ran as fast as he could to USC to continue being the top dog in the arguably the worst P5 conference, maybe aside from the ACC....hmm
Neither of those guys are leaders or winners. They’re both elite at setting their own career progressions and financial planning, but could it be any more obvious that they want to be head coaches not to win championships or compete with the best, but to collect a check for doing the bare minimum to be considered “elite” and be paid accordingly?
-Both had stints under very well respected Texas coaches at schools with reasonably low expectations and weaker competition levels to get their feet wet (SMU for Garrett, Texas Tech for Lincoln)
-Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail (SMU, ECU)
-Both made moves to extremely well established programs that are/were generally head and shoulders above the competition in weak conferences with aging head coaches (Oklahoma, Clemson)
-Lincoln ended up coasting to the head job at Oklahoma and took over a turnkey powerhouse program built by Bob Stoops, and I’d bet my life that Garrett will take over at Clemson after Dabo retires.
-As soon as Oklahoma decided that they were going to move to the SEC, Lincoln ran as fast as he could to USC to continue being the top dog in the arguably the worst P5 conference, maybe aside from the ACC....hmm
Neither of those guys are leaders or winners. They’re both elite at setting their own career progressions and financial planning, but could it be any more obvious that they want to be head coaches not to win championships or compete with the best, but to collect a check for doing the bare minimum to be considered “elite” and be paid accordingly?
23
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:15 am to Forever
quote:
I’d bet my life that Garrett will take over at Clemson after Dabo retires.
Seems aggressive.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:07 am to Forever
quote:
Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail
quote:
Both made moves to extremely well established programs that are/were generally head and shoulders above the competition
Lol. You’re reaching here. Isn’t this what most coaches do? Start at a smaller school, work their way up, and take the multi million $ offer to coach at P5. Who isn’t going to do that?
Garrett is only 33 and now the OC at Clemson. Not a bad career progression
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:27 am to Forever
This thread is so sad
Posted on 1/13/23 at 7:03 am to Forever
quote:
-Both had stints under very well respected Texas coaches at schools with reasonably low expectations and weaker competition levels to get their feet wet (SMU for Garrett, Texas Tech for Lincoln)
-Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail (SMU, ECU)
-Both made moves to extremely well established programs that are/were generally head and shoulders above the competition in weak conferences with aging head coaches (Oklahoma, Clemson)
Other than some specifics (Texas), this sounds like how most every major coordinator moves up the ranks
quote:
but could it be any more obvious that they want to be head coaches not to win championships or compete with the best, but to collect a check for doing the bare minimum to be considered “elite” and be paid accordingly?
I mean you can criticize his plan on how he wants to do it, but I think it's clear Lincoln wants to win titles.
That's why he went to a powerhouse program with major recruiting reputation and is the exact type of program to seize on the NIL era.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 7:15 am to Forever
quote:
Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail (SMU, ECU) -Both made moves to extremely well established programs that are/were generally head and shoulders above the competition in weak conferences with aging head coaches (Oklahoma, Clemson)
I love how you try to discredit their coaching success at both big and smaller programs. If they had done the same thing at Bama or Georgia you would have discredited them by saying they had the best talent money could buy.
It seems like you just don’t like the guys.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 7:54 am to Forever
quote:
-Both started their OC careers at smaller schools against bad competition where it was basically impossible to fail (SMU, ECU)
Plenty of coaches failed at those schools. I don't know what seems impossible about that.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 7:56 am to Forever
What do you do for a living?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I mean you can criticize his plan on how he wants to do it, but I think it's clear Lincoln wants to win titles.
That's why he went to a powerhouse program with major recruiting reputation and is the exact type of program to seize on the NIL era.
The OP doesn't see the irony, but he's criticizing Lincoln for essentially doing what Brian Kelly did in coming to LSU. Lincoln brought OU to the playoffs multiple times. It was just clear he could not quite compete with the SEC teams when there to win a championship. So when an opportunity was presented to him to go to a school with a great football history in a locale with abundant talent nearby, he took it.
Kelly was having great success at ND. He likewise took them to the playoffs multiple times. But like Riley, when there he realized he couldn't get over the hump to win a championship at his current school. So when an opportunity was presented to him to go to a school with a great football history in a locale with abundant talent nearby, he took it.
So is Kelly's progression "hilarious" too?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:18 am to Forever
I think they're both great OC's. I question Lincoln's ability to build a program because he hasn't done it yet. He managed a team built by one of the best coaches in college football and didn't completely burn it to the ground. Time will tell if USC gets better as a whole under his leadership or if they will be like Oklahoma, five-star offense and two-star defense. Bailing when Oklahoma made the decision to jump to the SEC is a bad look as well.
Garrett definitely earned his OC wings at TCU. He lost his starting quarterback to injury at the start of the year and made Duggan into a household name. Not to mention helping guide TCU to the NC game. Grant it, they looked bad against UGa's defense, but I think anyone who would have played that night would have looked bad. Clemson is getting a good play-caller. Is he ready to make the jump to head man? Absolutely not.
Their career trajectory is about what I'd expect out of good young offensive coaches. I just think Lincoln jumped to HC a little too quickly.
Garrett definitely earned his OC wings at TCU. He lost his starting quarterback to injury at the start of the year and made Duggan into a household name. Not to mention helping guide TCU to the NC game. Grant it, they looked bad against UGa's defense, but I think anyone who would have played that night would have looked bad. Clemson is getting a good play-caller. Is he ready to make the jump to head man? Absolutely not.
Their career trajectory is about what I'd expect out of good young offensive coaches. I just think Lincoln jumped to HC a little too quickly.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
hat's why he went to a powerhouse program with major recruiting reputation and is the exact type of program to seize on the NIL era
While strategically dodging a more competitive conference. Very smart move on his part in lots of ways. He’s a pussy for it but it’s not necessarily stupid
Both are true
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:22 am to Forever
This is weird.
People everyday take jobs where they think they'll be successful.
Itd be dumb to take a job where you would just fail and get fired.
People everyday take jobs where they think they'll be successful.
Itd be dumb to take a job where you would just fail and get fired.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:41 am to Forever
This is incredibly confusing... they have normal career trajectories
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:44 am to Forever
quote:
I’d bet my life that Garrett will take over at Clemson after Dabo retires.
Dabo is 53 years old, do you think that Garrett is going to be the OC of Clemson for ~15 years?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:17 am to Forever
Someone is jealous of the Clemson hire
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:44 am to iBack8569
quote:
Bailing when Oklahoma made the decision to jump to the SEC is a bad look as well.
Why?
It's not like he bailed for Syracuse, or Kansas St, or Maryland. He went to USC...which has a long tradition of college football success and sits in a hotbed of local talent. Or do you think it was a bad look for Kelly when he bailed ND for LSU?
Both went to places they felt gave them a better opportunity to win a National Championship. OU is a great program. But there are a lot of built-in advantages at USC. LA county alone has 3x the population of the entire state of Oklahoma. If, IF, Riley can start putting a fence around California's top talent USC could quickly become a powerhouse once more. And in a age where NIL is paramount, sitting in the nations 2nd largest media market is a pretty good place to be. The only downside is the "buy in" from the community/alumni base may not be as strong as it is in Oklahoma. But one year in Riley took a USC program from a decade of irrelevance to the brink of the CFP. On the flipside, OU just had their worst season in 2 decades.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:56 am to Forever
Doesn’t everyone plan their careers to eventually become very successful? I’m not sure what you are getting at here.
Are you mad Clemson noticed their weak spot was OC so they went out and got one of the top young minds to go with their young top prospect QB?
Are you mad Clemson noticed their weak spot was OC so they went out and got one of the top young minds to go with their young top prospect QB?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:40 am to Forever
Lincoln is a pussy. His wife pulls the strings.
His teams at SC are doomed to be as frustrating as his teams at OU. Beat the hell out of shitty teams by a bunch of points, get punched in the mouth anytime they play a physical team.
He's what Neil Peart described as "For those who wish to seem" meaning he's just in it for the spotlight and money.
His teams at SC are doomed to be as frustrating as his teams at OU. Beat the hell out of shitty teams by a bunch of points, get punched in the mouth anytime they play a physical team.
He's what Neil Peart described as "For those who wish to seem" meaning he's just in it for the spotlight and money.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:03 am to dirtsandwich
quote:
I’d bet my life that Garrett will take over at Clemson after Dabo retires. Seems aggressive.
Would make it worthwhile if that’s what happens however
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
He's what Neil Peart described as "For those who wish to seem" meaning he's just in it for the spotlight and money.
Jesus Christ the takes some of you have
He took a job at one of the most historic programs in CFB history, that just happens to be in a major city with tons of talent. If you think he’ll never win because of defense or the lines, that’s fine, and maybe so but you are beyond retard if you think he sees it that way and that’s why he went to USC
As far as the spotlight and money pretty no one in the SEC is coaching for minimum wage.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News