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re: Goodness Gracious, whats the total LSU is paying in buyouts? And is Woodward good at this?

Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36330 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:26 pm to
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Ok cool they are spending 30 million because of bad decisions Woodward presided over.


What the frick were his choices last year?

Fire O- it was too early for that on the heels of a title and the COVID issues just made that even more unrealistic. He would have gotten on the wrong side of potential replacements acting too early.

Cut off the tap- It was obvious O made some really poor hires before 2020, but Woodward is smart enough to know he couldn’t win without good coordinators. Woodward would have lost the fans before the season started rolling Pelini and the rest of the crew back out there for a repeat of the shitshow.

Give O a legitimate last shot- none of these are good choices, but Woody picked the best one. O’s reward for 2019 was getting a real shot to turn things around this season. It didn’t work out and now he’s gone.

Joe Alleva is the one who set the table for all of this. Woodward couldn’t sweep it all way in one motion. He did what he needed to do and now he has his shot to really prove his worth with this hire.

As for all the money- grow the frick up. Welcome to big boy P5 football. Pay up or move down the ladder and don’t worry about competing for titles anymore.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36330 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:31 pm to
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Should not have given Ed O and extension or buyout, IMO


This stupid fricking Joe Dean-eske move would have every candidate worth a damn turning their noses up at this job today. For all of you who’ve missed the million times smarter posters have tried to remind you- COACHES WHO WIN A TITLE GET PAID AND THE EXTENSIONS ALWAYS HAVE A BUYOUT.

Our fanbase is so damn cheap and short-sighted.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Woodward is great at fixing his mistakes with other people’s money.
And Os mistakes too.

But that’s fine. A bad financial decision doesn’t bother me as long as it gets the guy you want. Thankfully O was given limitations this year on coordinators. But I had no problem with O getting full freedom to hire his guys the season after winning a nc. If he had given O limitations then, we would have criticized him for that. You want a guy, we hire said guy. Why is that a bad thing? Doesn’t cost the university.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28325 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:34 pm to
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abellsujr


Who are you thinking we end up with?
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16466 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:37 pm to
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How much to get a new coach?

Ok cool they are spending 30 million because of bad decisions Woodward presided over.

Ok, I'm just gonna believe yall that he is a good AD.

TAF is going to need money so yall don't bitch about rising ticket prices, donation fees, concessions, and parking.


You're right PoppaD, I think we all learned something here today and we're beginning to question everything because of your insight

LSU never should've fired Orgeron, now it's clear
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:51 pm to
Dude, I have no idea. I’m no deep insider.

I think they’re going after Franklin hard rn. I’m hoping that works.

After that things get dicey. You had kiffin as a strong, guaranteed 2nd option, but this past weekend was a circus in Knoxville. So I don’t know if that turned off the administration. I think it did.

Mel Tucker Im hoping fades from popularity in the next few weeks. I know he has people voicing for him on the BOS, but I think some bad loses may kill that. I don’t know though. I think if they miss on Franklin they’re going to push even harder for him.

So then you’re down to the lower tiers. But I really feel like it’s going to come down to those two. I hate to say it. So I think everyone needs to hope for Franklin and/or pray msu crashes and burns

But honestly, who knows. Someone else could emerge. Jay Johnson kinda came out of left field, but not really. You had some people calling it but were dismissed. So I don’t know.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:16 pm to
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You're right PoppaD, I think we all learned something here today and we're beginning to question everything because of your insight

LSU never should've fired Orgeron, now it's clear


Of course "O" needs to go. Did I question that?

What I questioned is if the boards hero, the head of athletic department, Woodward was as good as claimed.

All I've heard is how great Woodward is and maybe he is. Im no insider I dont know nothing, except some athletic programs at LSU have had turmoil and Woodward is the head man over them.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28378 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:53 am to
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LSU isn’t paying for any of that bruh.


Love how folks always so this but sometimes athletic departments are on the hook for those buyouts.

$30 million ain't chump change and to say unnamed "wealthy donors" will just pick up the tab is a little premature.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11984 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:56 am to
Not your money. The muh buyout crowd has a fetish for OPM and it's a bad look.
Posted by berniemoore
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2021
1090 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:57 am to
Not your money
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:04 am to
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The muh buyout crowd has a fetish for OPM and it's a bad look.





I'd say Woodward has a fetish for other people's money. How many times can he go to these "wealthy donor's" hat in hand?
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10341 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:30 am to
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Our fanbase is so damn cheap and short-sighted and unbelievably stupid!!.


FIFY
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:30 am to
It’s all over dude. We’re broke. Time to pack it in. BDP next hc. Book it.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21955 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:32 am to
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I'd say Woodward has a fetish for other people's money. How many times can he go to these "wealthy donor's" hat in hand?



Sounds like YOU have a fetish for Woody and other peoples money.

Woodward is just doing his job. His job IS to spend other peoples money.

Your whole premise is retarded.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28378 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:49 am to
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Woodward is just doing his job. His job IS to spend other peoples money


LSU already spends $20 million annually in debt service (2nd highest in the SEC) I hope he's good at spending "other people's money"

LINK
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42675 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:53 am to
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Our fanbase is so damn cheap and short-sighted.




Stupid....the word you are looking for is stupid
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6990 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:58 am to
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Coach O is getting 17 million
I read to buyout his current staff is 9 million.
Pelini got bought out at 4 million.
Lenehan got 1 million
Cregg is suing the University

The football program makes $150,000,000 a year. Who gives a frick. If a business grosses $150,000/year and loses $30,000, that isn’t significant. I get that some of y’all can’t wrap your brains around how a business that makes a shite ton of money works, but $30,000,000 isn’t significant to our athletic department
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24393 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:58 am to
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Someone please settle my fears and convince me that the man pulling the strings (Woodward) is actually good at this.


Ask Tennessee fans if they would have rather paid Pruitt. Gonna be some mud slinging going on in Rocky Top over his buyout lawsuit if they don't pony up.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37339 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:01 am to
Why do you care about the money? You have no clue what the new SEC revenue is going to look like with the new TV contracts.

Scott’s job is to do that all within budget. Why would you think he is not taking care of the money??
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10749 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:02 am to
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Ok, I'm just gonna believe yall that he is a good AD.

How about don’t “believe” a message board and fricking pay attention to his track record as an AD, both at LSU and his previous stops.

Or you can just keep wringing your hands about a piddly amount of money that you don’t even have to pay and asking if he’s any good.
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