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re: Evidence seems to point to BK was our #1 all along

Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:23 am to
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Riley stated to SVP last night that he didn’t speak to any school until speaking to USC Sunday morning.


HE!!!! How about his agent?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:23 am to
Remember Walker Howard’s visit to Notre Dane?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:24 am to
yeah normally I'd say we're not including recruits in on this but Walker/Jamie are a different situation
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:24 am to
USC said they pivoted to Riley when their attempt at Kelly fell through.

Looks like LSU was after Kelly the whole way, and when that became clear to USC, they nabbed Riley. USC got a great young coach, but I like what we're getting here in Brian Kelly.

Feel a bit bad for the ND fans/team, though, to be honest. They are a couple of reasonable scenarios away from a playoff chance. Tough time to lose a coach you never thought would ever leave.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:25 am to
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Everyone would then know that the ONLY reason he left ND was b/c LSU paid him about 4x what he was currently making. I see no fault with him leaving ND for that reason…I just hope everyone realizes he didn’t leave ND b/c he was looking for a new challenge or wanted to compete in the SEC.


I’ve got a bridge to sell anyone who thinks Brian Kelly was only making 2-3 mil dollars at ND
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:25 am to
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I simply do not believe that at all.

I agree- To hire Brian Kelly from ND is not a back up plan.

I honestly didn't think the Brian Kelly hire was real when the smoke began if in fact Riley was the original target.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:25 am to
Yep. I know for a fact Jamie and Walker were extremely impressed with Kelly.

That visit was likely the final piece to putting the whole thing together.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38516 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:26 am to
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Riley said he never spoke to any other school about its opening


To be fair, agents probably did the talking.
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:26 am to
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Remember Walker Howard’s visit to Notre Dane?


The ausberry kids were there the same weekend…..
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:27 am to
The contract details alone should tell you Kelly was locked in before the Riley, Tucker, Franklin deals were made public

Seems like hes an honorable man, and stuck to his word that he gave way back in Oct. SW knows this, respects it, and now wont spare a dime paying for anyone BK wants on staff
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:27 am to
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I tend to think you’re right. BK was his number 1 choice. Only thing I’m not sure of is BK taking the deal. I think it was hard for him to leave ND. Wasn’t a slam dunk and Woodward was probably a little on edge. In the end it worked out but it wasn’t a done deal until yesterday.
ND AD just said on TV that Kelly never even gave ND a chance to counter. He just resigned.
BK made up his mind a while ago, and it's obvious why.

At this point, he has done all he can do at ND, and ND has a ceiling that does not include a championship.
He wanted the chance to leverage LSU's talent to win championships before he retired.
So, there is not amount of facilities or money that ND could offer that would give him what he really wanted... championships.

Woodward offers equal or better pay, staff resources, elite facilities, and a program proven to be able to win championships (almost regardless of the HC).
This is a good deal for both parties.
Posted by BurgTiger67
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:28 am to
Those comments were made a week or so ago in response to rumors that he may be in talks for the USC job, not LSU.

He also said:
“You know, it’s interesting,” he said. “Where your name is brought up is probably where they want you to look so you’re not looking where you should be looking. It’s a smokescreen. It’s that time of the year where you throw names out there so people don’t look where they are supposed to look.”

In hindsight, his comments were spot on. Brilliant response.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:28 am to
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per their AD Kelly didn't even come to ND to match, this wasn't a pure money grab

Yeah that + his "low" salary means he's coming here to try to win titles, which is exciting. This is a football, not financial, move
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:28 am to
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Why is this even necessary?
because if a fan base, like Notre Dame, thinks it's about to lose its coach it can completely blow up the hiring process. Think les to Michigan 2007

Plus you don't want other schools interfering
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 9:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:29 am to
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USC said they pivoted to Riley when their attempt at Kelly fell through.

What is with the Matt Campbell-USC stuff? Was he their choice before Kelly?
Posted by Guava Jelly
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:30 am to
After taxes, LR is gonna be making $250k.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452315 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:31 am to
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because if a fan base, like Notre Dame, thinks it's about to lose its coach it can completely blow up the hiring process. Think les to Michigan 2007

Yeah it's a good thing Northwestern is a zero on the ratings scale b/c I think they're the only school with more media clout than ND or Mich.

If you want a media united to blow up your shite, frick with the schools that are over-represented in sports media. They'll ensure you're dragged through mud and shite on the entire way. Hell they're doing it to LSU now just for hiring BK. Imagine if they had a week's head start.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21069 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:31 am to
Yea was slightly worried last night BK was gonna jimbo coast but I don’t think he is
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12027 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:31 am to
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Everyone would then know that the ONLY reason he left ND was b/c LSU paid him about 4x what he was currently making.
This may be part of the motivation.
Getting woefully underpaid for years pisses people off enough that even if ND matched LSU's offer, he'd still leave.
If they offer to match, they are slapping him in the face by admitting they could have paid him fairly all along, but they didn't.
So, if you are Wanted by LSU, getting paid right by LSU, and have greater potential at LSU... why wouldn't you leave?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:32 am to
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yeah normally I'd say we're not including re
the more that comes to light shows...woody Just put on a masterclass
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