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re: Buddy Songy
Posted on 12/8/08 at 2:49 pm to triplesauce
Posted on 12/8/08 at 2:49 pm to triplesauce
quote:
Miles lost the right to wait w by making the decision he made.
Says who? The Rant?
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Posted on 12/8/08 at 2:51 pm to ForeLSU
One of the biggest benefits to bowl eligibility is the extra practice. No school, no distractions, just football.
New coach can learn the personnel, begin to apply talent to his system, etc. Three weeks is a ton of time in NCAAF.
New coach can learn the personnel, begin to apply talent to his system, etc. Three weeks is a ton of time in NCAAF.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 2:59 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
Maybe you should tell that to the seniors who came back this year because they wanted a shot to play for a shot t a nationaltittle. Miles lost the right to wait w by making the decision he made.
First of all, I am sympathetic toward the seniors for their experience this year...but make no mistake that a title should not have been the only reason to return for your senior season. Second, these seniors are part of the blame, be it in a small way; the lack of leadership is a tough blame on the coaches. Who stepped up as a true leader? Who carried on the leadership established by the departing Flynn, Doucet, Dorsey, Steltz, Highsmith, Jackson, Zenon? Dickson has tried. Who else? Did the coaches make them quit during the last few games?
Miles has not relinquished his right to make or to wait as a result of the outcome of THIS decision. He has simply used his mulligan he EARNED for winning the NC.
I'm not happy with the outcome either, nor is he based on his comments after the ARK game.
Give his the benefit...we have no clue what is going on privately or behind the LSU doors...but I truly believe HE does.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 3:08 pm to cajuncdm
email from DD suggests that Vic is headed to KSU
and Tyrone Nix and John Thompson at Georgia State are possible candidates
and Tyrone Nix and John Thompson at Georgia State are possible candidates
Posted on 12/8/08 at 3:12 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
Tyrone Nix and John Thompson at Georgia State are possible candidates
Got damnit les....got damnit
Posted on 12/8/08 at 3:18 pm to BilJ
I love Dandy, but he also claimed during the season that Miles was very happy with the Co-DC's and they were not going anywhere.
The truth of the matter is that nobody has anyone clue what's going on except the man running the show. And that's the way it should be.
The truth of the matter is that nobody has anyone clue what's going on except the man running the show. And that's the way it should be.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 3:29 pm to cajuncdm
quote:
First of all, I am sympathetic toward the seniors for their experience this year...but make no mistake that a title should not have been the only reason to return for your senior season. Second, these seniors are part of the blame, be it in a small way; the lack of leadership is a tough blame on the coaches. Who stepped up as a true leader? Who carried on the leadership established by the departing Flynn, Doucet, Dorsey, Steltz, Highsmith, Jackson, Zenon? Dickson has tried. Who else? Did the coaches make them quit during the last few games?
Miles has not relinquished his right to make or to wait as a result of the outcome of THIS decision. He has simply used his mulligan he EARNED for winning the NC.
I'm not happy with the outcome either, nor is he based on his comments after the ARK game.
Give his the benefit...we have no clue what is going on privately or behind the LSU doors...but I truly believe HE does
Good points.
I guess I believe that Miles made a bad decision in thinking the system from last year (even under Pelini) was working. We got smoked in a lot of games and had to outscore teams.
It was not a situation to just keep the system going.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 4:28 pm to Cash
quote:
shite, now Sports2 is agreeing. Probably no change until after the bowl
Wow. Will there be any good candidates around by that point? Can Les actually bring in a quality DC?
Posted on 12/8/08 at 9:37 pm to Maximus
That just means all the good dc's will be taken if he waits till after the bowl game.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 9:43 pm to LSUMARK
Unless he has already made some sort of verbal aggreement with someone. Not to long ago, certain posters were saying that Les had already chosen who the DC was gonna be.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:29 pm to jlc05
Waiting to name a DC until after the bowl is not a big deal.
Waiting to find a DC until after the bowl is inexcusable.
The one thing that Buddy insinuated that was very concerning was that his source said that Miles didn't think changes were necessary.
Waiting to find a DC until after the bowl is inexcusable.
The one thing that Buddy insinuated that was very concerning was that his source said that Miles didn't think changes were necessary.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 12:03 am to moneyg
quote:
Waiting to name a DC until after the bowl is not a big deal.
True, I was stirring the pot a bit.
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Waiting to find a DC until after the bowl is inexcusable.
That would be very disappointing. The supposed inside sources cited here and elsewhere say LM is definitely hiring a DC.
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The one thing that Buddy insinuated that was very concerning was that his source said that Miles didn't think changes were necessary.
That is very troubling if true. Also goes against what others are saying is happening. The meltdown will be truly epic.
This post was edited on 12/9/08 at 12:04 am
Posted on 12/9/08 at 4:10 am to moneyg
quote:
The one thing that Buddy insinuated that was very concerning was that his source said that Miles didn't think changes were necessary.
There's the rub ... there's the cause of ranter's concern. I agree, if it were definite Miles' was going to demote/fire/replace Peveto, Mallory, Malleto, then I don't care if it's not til after the bowl game, although, I think it would help recruiting to get the new guy in now, why let lame ducks recruit?
I have heard all the so-called "in the know" people on here, going back to Dec. 2004 ("Saban is NOT going to leave LSU, book it!") through many other situations. So when I hear, "Miles is definitely making changes at DC," it could very well be that he demotes Peveto and/or lets him be hired off to Northwestern, and "promotes" Mallory to sole DC.
I think the least Les should do now is make some sort of statement indicating that is not the case. Why? Not to appease Rantards, no ... but to assure recruits that the defensive coaching fiasco of the past year WILL be fixed.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 4:34 am to BilJ
quote:
Miles is trying to play nice with his failure assistants and give them a bonus they have not earned
Is the new ranter theory on the DC hire/non-hire? If so, this board may need to be blown up and started anew.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 7:36 am to BilJ
well, just blow off the fact that a few of the major candidates for the job are available immediately there, lester ... i can't believe miles is going to blow off a potential 15-day jump start for a new DC .. then he hits the ground running next spring, not to mention what it does immediately for recruiting ... miles can't be this dumb ..
Posted on 12/9/08 at 7:59 am to triplesauce
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I guess I believe that Miles made a bad decision in thinking the system from last year (even under Pelini) was working. We got smoked in a lot of games and had to outscore teams.
You can have the fastest car in the INDY 500 but with the wrong driver behind the wheel - you lose!
This post was edited on 12/9/08 at 8:17 am
Posted on 12/9/08 at 8:05 am to triplesauce
quote:
Miles is playing with fire.
Yes he is . . . and he's not savvy enough to realize this for himself.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 8:20 am to Champagne
if Miles doesn't realize there is a problem. Then, let him keep the co-dcs and die with them. He'll be gone after next year. If he is truly that stupid, then that is the best thing long term for LSU.
But, I don't think he is. I think he'll make a change and that he likely already has a deal with that guy. I remember everyone freakin' out when we didn't have an OC a few days after Jimbo left.
There were rumors of OLine and WR coaches being promoted and then we landed Crowton. I'm thinking that the same thing will happen with the DC job. If not, let Les sink his own ship.
But, I don't think he is. I think he'll make a change and that he likely already has a deal with that guy. I remember everyone freakin' out when we didn't have an OC a few days after Jimbo left.
There were rumors of OLine and WR coaches being promoted and then we landed Crowton. I'm thinking that the same thing will happen with the DC job. If not, let Les sink his own ship.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 8:25 am to TigerJeff
The fact is, neither Les Miles nor LSU has announced that the football team will be replacing the Defensive Coordinators. No notice has been given that the position is available.
The main statements concerning the defense is that "We are going to fix that...before the bowl game."
Other statements, during the season, have been "except for a few plays here and there, the defense played good enough for us to win."
The only outrage is coming from the fans (including me).
This is why there is so much frustration...no just because Les Miles has not hired a new coach, but that Les Miles has barely admitted, if at all, that there is a, except for a few plays here and there, major problem with the defense.
This isn't even a public relations nightmare because LSU is not conducting any public relations as it concerns the football team's defensive woes.
And fortunately there is a place to vent our concerns...right here at TD.com.
Go Tigers
The main statements concerning the defense is that "We are going to fix that...before the bowl game."
Other statements, during the season, have been "except for a few plays here and there, the defense played good enough for us to win."
The only outrage is coming from the fans (including me).
This is why there is so much frustration...no just because Les Miles has not hired a new coach, but that Les Miles has barely admitted, if at all, that there is a, except for a few plays here and there, major problem with the defense.
This isn't even a public relations nightmare because LSU is not conducting any public relations as it concerns the football team's defensive woes.
And fortunately there is a place to vent our concerns...right here at TD.com.
Go Tigers
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