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re: Arnett prefers a 3-man front, Coach o wants a 4-3.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:27 pm to LSUZach011
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:27 pm to LSUZach011
4-3 is far less important than an "attacking style defense" as he has said repeatedly. He just wants to create pressure one way or another. As long as our DE's are getting to eat and he can sell it to recruits then the formation the defense lines up in means frick all
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:27 pm to LSUZach011
Forcing a 4-3 just shows how outdated Coach O is. That worked when teams were running out of the I formation, which few teams use today. Everyone is showing different looks, and the defense has to be able to adapt to the look, not having players out of position all game like last season. A 3-3-5 defends the wide open offense better, but O wants sacks.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:27 pm to LSU2a
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Coach O didn’t seem adamant on being strictly a 4-3 Defense in today’s call. He stressed the importance of being able to do both 4 and 3 lineman formations.
O “evolves” his comments to fit what he thinks we want to hear. He was power spread run the ball back when he got the job on offense.
After the miserable fail on his 4-3 vision this year he has to backtrack without a full admission this the “multiple” comment.
If we hire Arnett we’re going 3-3-5 majority of snaps.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:27 pm to LSUZach011
And he was wrong
It was unfortunate he had to learn that the hard way.
It was unfortunate he had to learn that the hard way.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:28 pm to Geauxldilocks
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O “evolves” his comments to fit what he thinks we want to hear.
Ain't that the truth.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:28 pm to LSUZach011
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Coach O seems pretty adamant about running a 4-3 base scheme,
This is not true -
Coach O wants to run a 1-gap technique for the front 7
You can run 1-gap out of a 3 man or 4 man front
Also Arnett is pretty multiple and will run both
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:32 pm to LSUZach011
At this point you're running what the DC that accepts the job wants 
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:33 pm to Old Money
quote:early submission for post of the year.
Old Money
:rotflmao:Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:38 pm to ehidal1
We would certainly win more games that way.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:39 pm to LSUZach011
quote:It was also a point of contention between him and First Mate Pelini.
I agree, but isn't the difference being the base set. 4 man or 3 man? that was a big point of animosity between O and Aranda.
Bo came out and said that they didn't have the personnel to run a 4-3 yet, that they should have done a gradual transition to a 4-3. (Which made sense)
Captain Ed didn't like him openly stating that though.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:40 pm to LSUZach011
Not anymore. Says he wants multiple defenses
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:40 pm to LSUZach011
A 3-3-5 is most suited to defend spread offenses, which is what we mostly see now especially in conference. It relies on speed and toughness and from what I understand it’s conducive to being transitional with either a 4-3 or a 3-4. The downside to that t is if you like getting pressure quickly on the QB, it’s not great for that unless you disguise your blitzes really well.
I’d say that hiring a guy who runs a 3-5-5 defense means that O is thinking progressively, and that’s a good thing.
I’d say that hiring a guy who runs a 3-5-5 defense means that O is thinking progressively, and that’s a good thing.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:41 pm to LSUZach011
If you watch the Ole Miss game we actually ran some 3 min fronts with Roy as a SDE type and Bj standing up.
It went pretty well.
It went pretty well.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:44 pm to Midtiger farm
It was certainly true that he wanted a 4-3 when he hired Pelini.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:47 pm to LSUZach011
Remember when the rant told us he would only hire a 4-3 guy because of a possible mass exodus of players?
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:51 pm to LSUZach011
O got his shot to implement his defense "that looked like the defenses at USC and Miami" in their heyday...with a guy no one wanted...and it failed miserably. In the process, it eroded a ton of the confidence and benefit of the doubt O gained in 2019 season. So much so that some were calling for his firing. That being the case, he is back to "Pontious Pilate O" vs "master CEO O". That is, his next hires are in an effort to placate the powers that be in order to save his own skin.
Case in point. Brady's offense is lauded as the key to unlocking the 2019 season. Brady left and O, apparently went "away" from that offense? While not horrible, people were demanding the "Brady offense". So you have guys who can (by O's own words) "run the Brady offense".
Pelini was a disaster on many levels. O now needs to find a name he can "sell". Freeman was that guy as all here desperately wanted him. Didn't work out. Now he needs another name he can sell...not exclusively a guy to run his wet-dream defense. Tried that. Didn't work. If the fanbase and money people are satisfied with a Arnett hire, then that's what O will give them. He's not going to force his style this go round.
Case in point. Brady's offense is lauded as the key to unlocking the 2019 season. Brady left and O, apparently went "away" from that offense? While not horrible, people were demanding the "Brady offense". So you have guys who can (by O's own words) "run the Brady offense".
Pelini was a disaster on many levels. O now needs to find a name he can "sell". Freeman was that guy as all here desperately wanted him. Didn't work out. Now he needs another name he can sell...not exclusively a guy to run his wet-dream defense. Tried that. Didn't work. If the fanbase and money people are satisfied with a Arnett hire, then that's what O will give them. He's not going to force his style this go round.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:52 pm to LSUZach011
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he always complained about Aranda's 3-man front
He didn’t.
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It was certainly true that he wanted a 4-3 when he hired Pelini.
This is true.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:53 pm to LSUZach011
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I agree, but isn't the difference being the base set. 4 man or 3 man? that was a big point of animosity between O and Aranda.
Having the worst defense in the history of the school may have changed his mind on this. Almost like a coach that is evolving. I am not mad at him if he saw his mistake and rethought his whole philosophy.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:54 pm to abellsujr
No. I just joined...i only remember what O said when he was looking for a DC last year.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:58 pm to Nix to Twillie
In 2019, he said several times that the defense would get more pressure on the QB if they ran 4 up front. After Aranda left, he said that he was more comfortable with the 4-3 than he was with the previous defense.
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