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Am I missing something about Kiffin?

Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:38 pm
The guy was horrid at Oakland with one of the most talented rosters (at the time) in the AFC. Mediocre at Tennessee. At USC they were on sanctions, but still had 3 times the talent of all the other PAC teams. USC fired him, then Ed Orgeron proceeded to win at a MUCH bigger clip than him. His best year at FAU was due to Kendal Briles offense. I seriously don't get the hype around his name.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26574 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:42 pm to
Eh, His career college record is 60-34 and has two 10-win seasons at a pretty putrid FAU program. Kiffin is overrated but not bad like you are presenting
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
1068 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:48 pm to
Raiders- 31 yo HC in over his head.
Tennessee - decent job for 1 year and then offered his dream job
USC - Trojans ungrateful, not acknowledging effects of sanctions
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 11:55 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:50 pm to
He might be overrated, but I highly doubt he’d piss away everything to a shitty Wisconsin team
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155391 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:51 pm to
He’ll overachieve early, maintain some moderate relative success, then eventually wear out his welcome with the usual antics.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11264 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:05 pm to
Yes. As a recruiter he’s as dirty as they come and I don’t really mean this as an insult
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:14 pm to
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The guy was horrid at Oakland with one of the most talented rosters (at the time) in the AFC.


He was 31 years old. That was over a decade ago. Coach O is a great example of what can change.

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Mediocre at Tennessee.


Immediately turned program around in first year, had them bowling (chikl fil a I believe). Had a hell of a recruiting class (was at least top 10, but I believe it may have been top 5).

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USC fired him,


He won 10 games in his first season at USC while under sanctions and finished as high as 7th in the polls.

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His best year at FAU was due to Kendal Briles offense.


Jesus. Just read this.

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In December 2016, Kiffin took over an FAU program that had won a total of nine combined games over the previous three seasons. Kiffin proceeded to take the Owls to new heights over the last three years, including two conference titles and two 10-win seasons. In his head coaching stops at USC, Tennessee and FAU, Kiffin has shown a propensity in helping turn programs around. In his first season at all three locations, Kiffin's team improved in win differential (+3.33), scoring (+10.2), passing (+34.5 ypg) and rushing (+51.3 ypg). Kiffin led the Owls to a 10-3 record this season, including Saturday's 49-6 win over UAB in the Conference USA Championship Game. The Owls lead the nation in interceptions (19) and turnovers gained (29). FAU also leads C-USA in scoring offense (34.1), red zone offense (0.911), fumbles lost (three) and turnover margin (1.58).

In his first season in Boca Raton, Kiffin started 1-3, but reeled off a program-high 10 consecutive wins to finish the 2017 campaign at 11-3. The Owls' 11 victories were two more than the previous three seasons combined and earned the program votes in national polls. The seven-game improvement tied for the fifth-best turnaround in FBS history. Along the way, 41 individual or team records were amassed, and an FAU-record 21 players earned All-Conference USA recognition.

The Owls captured their second conference title in program history, the first since joining C-USA and first since 2007. FAU remained a perfect 3-0 in bowl play by defeating Akron in the Boca Raton Bowl, 50-3. Statistically, the Owls finished in the top-25 in 16 team categories, including: No. 2 in passes intercepted, No. 5 in first down offense, No. 6 in rushing offense, No. 8 in kickoff return defense, red zone offense and turnovers lost, and No. 9 in total offense and turnover margin (by comparison, FAU was No. 72 the previous season in total offense and No. 99 in turnovers gained).

Kiffin joined the FAU Owls after three seasons at the University of Alabama, where he served as the Tide's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. He was a finalist for the Frank Broyles Award in 2014, which goes to the country's best assistant coach.

His final season with the Tide, Kiffin mentored Jalen Hurts, the first freshman to start at quarterback in head coach Nick Saban's career. Hurts finished 13-1 as the starting QB and guided Alabama to an SEC title and to the National Championship game. Hurts was a Freshman All-American, the SEC Offensive Player of the year and the SEC Freshman of the Year. He was a finalist for the Manning Award, the Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award, a semifinalist for the Walter Camp Player of the Year and the Davey O'Brien Award, presented annually to the nation's top quarterback.

In 2015, Kiffin oversaw the development of quarterback Jake Coker, who finished his career 14-0 as a starter at Alabama and led the nation in completion percentage over the final 10 games of the season at 72.2 percent. Coker threw for 3,110 yards with 21 touchdowns, which ranks as the second-most passing yards in school history. On the ground, Kiffin fed Heisman Trophy running back Derrick Henry the ball a school-and SEC-record 395 times for a record 2,219 yards and 23 touchdowns. Henry's 2,219 yards was also the fifth-most rushing yards in a single season in college football history.

One of Kiffin's first responsibilities at Alabama was identifying a starting quarterback and then developing Blake Sims in 2014. With three-year starter and All-American AJ McCarron off to the NFL, Kiffin oversaw Sims' rise to the top of the Alabama depth chart en route to a school-record 3,487 passing yards and 3,837 yards of total offense while completing 64.5 percent of his passes. He ranked tied for fourth nationally in total QBR (83.7) and seventh in passing efficiency (157.9). Sims was selected second-team All-SEC, named to the Senior Bowl, tabbed as a finalist for the Manning Award and a semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award.

He spent the previous three-plus seasons as the head coach at Southern California, where he compiled a record of 28-15. Kiffin's 2012 USC squad went 7-6 overall and 5-4 in the Pac-12 South, good for second place. Wide receiver Marquise Lee was a unanimous first team All-American and won the Biletnikoff Award while also being named the Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Year. Quarterback Matt Barkley, who won the Wuerffel Trophy, set conference records for passing yards and passing touchdowns.

Kiffin led the Trojans to a 10-2 record in 2011 and a sixth-place finish in the final Associated Press poll. The team finished first in the Pac-12 South with a 7-2 mark. His 2011 USC offense produced a 3,500-yard passer, a pair of 1,000-yard receivers and a 1,000-yard rusher. Three Trojans earned First Team All-America honors (Matt Kalil, Robert Woods and T.J. McDonald) and five were named Freshman All-Americans.

In his first year as the head coach at USC, Kiffin led the Trojans to an 8-5 record (5-4 Pac-10). Before his arrival, the Trojans were averaging 26.5 points per game in scoring offense and 389.1 yards per game in total offense. In his first two seasons, those numbers increased to 31.0 points per game and 431.5 yards in 2011 and 35.8 points and 456.8 yards in 2012.

Prior to his tenure at Southern California, Kiffin served as the head coach at Tennessee in 2009. He led the Volunteers to a second-place finish in the SEC East and an appearance in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. The Volunteers' offense jumped at least 34 places in every national statistical category over the 2008 figures. Tennessee improved from 17.3 to 29.3 points per game while going from 268.8 to 383.5 yards per game in total offense.

Kiffin came to Tennessee from the Oakland Raiders, where he served as head coach from 2007-08. At 31, he was the youngest head coach in the NFL's modern era. Oakland's offense significantly improved in his first year, up 7.2 points per game and 48.6 yards per game from 2006.

This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15333 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:35 pm to
Saban made him a new man.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:12 pm to
I don't believe that people actually think Kiffin is an elite coach. They just know he's a character and will make things interesting.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 11:13 pm
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12259 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:26 pm to
That is why he is thrilled to get the Ole Miss job.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

Am I missing something about Kiffin?
Yeah, the fact that he's a good coach and more importantly a good recruiter
Posted by Russ337
NM
Member since Dec 2013
1473 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:46 pm to
This is a serious question. Besides Fau, has ever recruited without Coach O as a head coach?
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12371 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:44 am to
Nope. Do think he will recruit well but he's a disaster waiting to happen. Sure he had sanctions at USC but he also had a very loaded roster and sucked when it began to be his own kids in the program. His rosters there were always top 5ish in terms of talent. More than he will have at OM and he's in the toughest division in college football. It will end badly just like every other major job he's had.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8059 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:46 am to
I'll never forget Al Davis using an old school overhead projector to run down Kiffin.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42347 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:47 am to
That was lean Kiff, we talking bout fat Kiff now.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:24 am to
He just won another conference championship at fau. Any coach with that resume would be a hot commodity. Great hire for ol miss.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 11:52 am to
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The guy was horrid at Oakland with one of the most talented rosters (at the time) in the AFC

they had the #1 pick bruh
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29886 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 11:58 am to
herman and jimbo were talked up like crazy too and you see how bad they are

kiffin is just a well known name and most who know the name have no idea of his record, his past, or if he is any good, but everyone knows the name so that means he must be really good lol
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6514 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:14 pm to
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At USC they were on sanctions, but still had 3 times the talent of all the other PAC teams


The preseason #1 team in 2012 had 71 scholarship players. 9 had no choice but to redshirt.

3 were freshman at K P and LS.

He esstianlly had 59 scholarship players available to start the season.

They never had a chance. The media was stupid to hype them up from overacheiving the year prior.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10721 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:25 pm to
All HYPE my friend
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