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This seems to be going well. Glad to see all the nuance in this thread :lol:

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I was a kid when Big Baby was at LSU so didn't get to enjoy it in it's fullness. Loved watching Marcus Thornton and Garret Temple when they were there..
However, I was a student when Will Wade won the SEC. Maybe I was just too young to appreciate it, but I don't remember another time when there were students packed in from the floor to the top of the arena. Lines started forming for the student section hours before tip off and the PMAC was rocking.

I don't expect a natty by any means, but THAT energy coming back to BR for basketball is incredibly exciting. I imagine that will be the norm again by years 2 and 3, maybe as soon as year 1 if the current student body was tuned in from 17-22 :dude:

well, you succeeded. Back to work :lol:

not mad at the message if you take it at face value. I think the issue is that when the masses push this idea of "love" they're often conflating it with tolerance which is inherently opposed to love. Tolerating unrighteousness is the opposite of love: apathy. Love would be refusing to turn your back on the current state while still demanding improvement.

On the other hand, I don't believe hate is actually all that powerful. Love, regardless of the kind (unconditional, friendship, familial, and romantic) are all leaps and bounds more powerful than hatred. I'd argue that fear is a much more dangerous state than hatred.

So many really incredible songs here. Life Sentence and What If are a couple of my favorites

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So I have to think instead that, in his heart of hearts, at a level of calm conviction so deeply hidden beneath veils of childhood indoctrination that he is all but unaware of its existence, he keeps and treasures the certainty that in the end—in the words of Dame Julian of Norwich (1342–1416)—“All shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.”

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Put in short, if Jesus tells us that he is the way, the truth and the life but people will be saved apart from him, is Jesus lying, misinformed or incompetent?

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Agreed on the second quote, as it's in accordance with Christ's words in John 14:6: I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

To expand on the first quote about the subject not desperately evangelizing the entire world, I'd assume he views his responsibility as his family and close community. We ARE called to make disciples of all nations but there's a distinction between disciples and believers. Paul wrote to Christian churches around the world to transform them from mere believers to disciples - disciplined followers of Christ. My heart is to tell everyone I know about Christ and to bring the gospel to them, but ultimately, Christ says in John 6:44: No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day.

Even the desire to know, love, be known, and be loved by God is His Grace in action and I have no authority or power to offer that grace to anyone, as this level of grace is from God. All I can do is speak His word and it will land effectively to any in which He's drawn to Christ.

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I believe they backed off, maybe in Vatican II, to state that she would simply not have been in full communion previously.

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Maybe that's true, and I'll admit ignorance to that if so. However: "CANON VI.–If any one saith, that the canon of the mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated; let him be anathema." so the council that edited or backed off of the claim at Trent, would also be anathema according to Trent.

And again, I'm not attacking anyone's personal beliefs here. Just looking at the available texts and applying it to the situation being discussed.

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It's hard for me to not be argumentative with people who reject the Catholic Church, but I'm learning to pray for God to defend his Church because I am not skilled enough to do so with the kindness of Jesus.

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As a protestant, this is the way. Without taking anything away from missionaries and ministers, it's okay to trust that God will defend His Church. We may disagree about what that means, but if we're both genuine in our pursuit of Christ, we should have faith that His will is going to prevail. Far too much contentious argument and not enough truth seeking dialogue happening within religious groups who make a claim to Christianity in one way or another. I can really appreciate your perspective on this

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Jake "Nasty" McNiece

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One of my favorites.