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So will anyone break up the iphone/Samsung duopoly?
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:06 pm to prplhze2000
Best phone I've ever had was a Windows 7 HTC. Not sure why MS abandoned them.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:56 pm to RTRinTampa
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Best phone I've ever had was a Windows 7 HTC
man you've had some shitty phones
Posted on 4/29/23 at 3:00 pm to prplhze2000
It's going to take someone with the marketing arm and established consumer clout to go all in on an Android phone like Samsung has....many have tried all have failed.
LG put in a half hearted effort....despite the relative quality of Google produced phones its clear people trust the Samsung devices more than the Pixels.
Microsoft maybe could do it, but I don't think they could use their own OS and they would have put out better phone hardware than any of the shite they've put out in the past.
I also don't think companies like Dell or HP would want to put the amount of money and effort into it that it would take simply because of the vast amount of risk this effort would entail.
LG put in a half hearted effort....despite the relative quality of Google produced phones its clear people trust the Samsung devices more than the Pixels.
Microsoft maybe could do it, but I don't think they could use their own OS and they would have put out better phone hardware than any of the shite they've put out in the past.
I also don't think companies like Dell or HP would want to put the amount of money and effort into it that it would take simply because of the vast amount of risk this effort would entail.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 3:30 pm to RTRinTampa
Mine was the Nokia 920 Windows phone. The issue was lack of app support IMO.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 3:47 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:52 pm to prplhze2000
There is no need to break it up.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:28 pm to LSU316
MS tried. Didn't matter how much $$$ it spent, it could not convince developers to create apps for its OS. Period. That's been the biggest hurdle to non IOS And Android competitors
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:41 pm to prplhze2000
Google pixel line is great, on par with Samsung and apple imo.
Just not as popular I guess.
Just not as popular I guess.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:16 am to prplhze2000
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MS tried. Didn't matter how much $$$ it spent, it could not convince developers to create apps for its OS. Period. That's been the biggest hurdle to non IOS And Android competitors
One reason is cost. You have to have your app developer already come out with multiple versions of the same app to satisfy the demands for each OS.
I work with video apps, so I had to have our developers build apps for: IOS, Android, Roku, and Amazon Fire TV for content distribution.
I am eventually going to have look at even adding even more Apps when you consider that Samsung, LG, Vizio, and Sony now have their own platforms to distribute content to their TVs over the internet. That would make 6 different TV OS platforms, that is too many in my opinion.
Depending on your app builder, each one of those platforms may have a cost associated with building and maintaining those apps. But before that, you and the developer have to deal with the App submissions process.
Apple is the one that was the most notorious with review times in days or weeks.
So yes there is a reason why it is just Android and IOS, and I think it is because developers do not want to have to support yet another mobile OS. Two are plenty enough.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 6:35 am to prplhze2000
I've still got my Samsung S10 which is almost 4 years old now.
It still works just like the day I got it.
It still works just like the day I got it.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 7:05 am to prplhze2000
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That's been the biggest hurdle to non IOS And Android competitors
The question was Samsung vs Apple. Not iOS vs Android
Posted on 4/30/23 at 10:24 am to prplhze2000
In Smart Phones? No. They have all of the pieces to the puzzle locked up from production to point of sale, so nobody else really has a shot.
What comes next though is anybody's game since we don't even know what that is yet. A lot are betting on Augmented/Mixed Reality being the next thing, but we saw with 3D TV, the requirement of wearing glasses is doomed to fail. Until they can put that in contact lens form, or neural link form, it's not going to be the next thing.
It might take decades to get the tech right for that, but what might only take 5 years is AI in your ear like the movie Her. That's still probably going to need to be paired with a phone, and the usual suspects are leading in this area, but maybe it will bring Windows Phone back as apps get replaced with ChatGPT plugins.
What comes next though is anybody's game since we don't even know what that is yet. A lot are betting on Augmented/Mixed Reality being the next thing, but we saw with 3D TV, the requirement of wearing glasses is doomed to fail. Until they can put that in contact lens form, or neural link form, it's not going to be the next thing.
It might take decades to get the tech right for that, but what might only take 5 years is AI in your ear like the movie Her. That's still probably going to need to be paired with a phone, and the usual suspects are leading in this area, but maybe it will bring Windows Phone back as apps get replaced with ChatGPT plugins.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 11:33 am to prplhze2000
quote:I have had at least 5 different Android phones and have never owned a Samsung.
iphone/Samsung duopoly?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 3:33 pm to prplhze2000
Hopefully the Nothing Phone can bring some competition. Carl Pei got One Plus into the game and he left to start Nothing.
https://us.nothing.tech/pages/phone-1

https://us.nothing.tech/pages/phone-1

This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 3:48 pm to LSU316
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LG put in a half hearted effort....despite the relative quality of Google produced phones its clear people trust the Samsung devices more than the Pixels.
Pixel 3 and newer phones are produced by Google, not LG or HTC.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:03 pm to dakarx
quote:Same here. I guess the two biggest issues are battery life and camera quality? I think all the hardware is fine, it just needs more software development.
Been watching this for a while now, just waiting for it to mature a little bit...wanting to give it a whirl with a burner SIM for a while.
By virtue of running full linux it has more "apps" than iphone and android put together. It's just the vast majority of them need to be rewritten with a tiny screen in mind.

Pine64 has a bunch of neat stuff.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:04 pm to prplhze2000
I just went to web pages (Delta.com etc.) and pinned the bookmark to the home screen of my 920. Fake app, hurrah!
My 920 was Yellow. They were svelte and IMO, kinda sexy.

My 920 was Yellow. They were svelte and IMO, kinda sexy.

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