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Is a large part of working in IT just playing the blame game?

Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:12 am
I do IT support for a PC application and it would seem to me that many times there are issues caused by no fault of the application itself but by something related to the user's PC and/or network that a simple google search of the problem would reveal.

General IT support for a company will sit on this issue for days without doing a hint of research then try to pass it off as if it were a problem with our software.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:17 am to
Sir what you have there is a standard ID-10t error. please reboot....
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:26 am to
you about to get some clickety clack.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:54 am to
You should be able to prove this kind of stuff and get different IT management that leads to more competent IT staff......I've walked that path myself before as a software vendor.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
90% of IT is just CYA
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Sir what you have there is a standard ID-10t error. please reboot....


Good ole PEBCAK errors...
Posted by Athis
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:46 pm to
PICNIC (Problem In Chair Not In Computer)
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Is a large part of working in IT just playing the blame game?


It really depends on the tech and the scenario.

Any tech that's been trained worth a shite starts with the low-hanging fruit and works their way out from there. This often means you check your own environment first (user, PC, network) then look to the software.

We had an issue with an external system our financial and HR folks use that's provided by a completely separate group. Their system stopped broadcasting a certain .jar file that was refreshed every so often when first logging into their front-end. Without the refresh, the front-end GUI would not load and gave only a generic error message (this meant some of our users were working, some were not).

We started from the standpoint that it was on our end. Once we found the problem (and a solution) we opened a ticket with that group. No idea if it was ever truly fixed on their end (they are known for making changes without notifying anyone else).
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:44 pm to
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PICNIC (Problem In Chair Not In Computer)


Hadn't actually seen this one before... PEBCAK is Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard... I wonder which came first.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:45 pm to
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PEBCAK is Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard


We called that "a short between the keyboard and the chair".
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:24 pm to
oh look, a programmer who has never seen an issue with his code....
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

oh look, a programmer who has never seen an issue with his code....


No syntax errors would be a first, hahahahaha
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10906 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 5:57 pm to
End users are dumb. They lie because they don’t want to troubleshoot, or answer in the affirmative to avoid sounding dumb when asked a question. Most issues are end user issues. No shite a reboot, or cable being unplugged.

From there you have “help desk for life” techs who are lazy and have optimized systems to keep their ticket queue clear. Not actually resolve issues.

One of the easiest ways for them to get a ticket out of their queue is to pawn it off somewhere by blaming them.

However everyone can see this, and this is why they are still on the help desk for longer than a year. Productive enough to not get fired, not ambitious enough to move on.


The rest of us moved on to admin, engineer, or management roles.

This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 5:58 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29284 posts
Posted on 3/23/19 at 8:10 am to
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oh look, a programmer who has never seen an issue with his code....


In the same room I'm looking at a systems admin that can't configure IIS outside of the defaults (with instructions) to save his life.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2827 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:59 am to
Depends on your IT Dept. Ones with fairly wide but not necessarily extremely deep employees can usually do a pretty good job at narrowing down any problems. Ones that are fairy deep but not very wide have a little more trouble due to their specialized nature. Wide as in a little practical experience in all areas of IT, deep as in specializing in one area. Also depends on how willing they are to work as a team playing off each others skills. Also some IT Depts do not strive to find solutions just answers. The ones who just try to find answers seem to be the blame game players. My guys are trained to keep asking why until a solution is found. Sometimes that does include blaming someone else, but they are never allowed to let it end there. They are required to continue to work the problem until we find a solution. Sometimes it’s a modification in our configuration and sometimes a modification by a vendor or both.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Is a large part of working in IT just playing the blame game

Not reading a word of this thread but just popped in to say YES!!!
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 4:21 pm to
Where I work, I see the entire I.T. department play 'hot potato' with the service tickets all day, every day. Every one of them find some random scenario that would make it not their fault and they pass the ticket to someone else. After it makes it rounds back to service desk, they'll basically have to write up a goddamn legal brief in order to get the other team to actually consider that it may be something in their scope. Under no circumstance will they actually contact the user to see if what they are suggesting may be on their end. It really gets ridiculous at times because the I.T. department is global so none of the teams actually have an type of relationship with each other. Working as a team on a solution is out of the question.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16868 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 7:51 pm to
My favorite thing I hear is when you call the IT guy to detail a problem I am having with software......"Well, it shouldn't be doing that".

Well, I just told you it is.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
972 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:35 pm to
Best answers are when an end user just says "it won't let me" or "it's not working" when you ask what their issue is. No mention of the errors they receive.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19493 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:46 am to

1st level tech support at the companies I've dealt with, all work from a playbook. If your problem is in the playbook, they have a sequence they run to fix it.

If your problem is not in the playbook, or if the solution in the playbook doesn't fix the problem, they typically start escalating the issue. That's where you get some variation in how companies deal with customers, and if you're dealing with a crappy organization they'll drop the ball.
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