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Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:51 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:51 am to
btw ASUS makes it obvious from that pic which MESH system they're talking about
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:56 pm to
Update firmly bought into Asus koolaid after spending half the morning on smallnetbuilder. Purchased an 86U and going to see how the range fares with that and put my old 56U into AP mode.

Then I'll just scoop up the inevitable sub-$50 AC1900 sales on Amazon to grab aimesh compatible hardware to increase coverage.

Three advantages:

(1) now i don't need to buy a PoE switch (which I would have to because those other mesh systems dont provide enough ports to plug in my existing crap). Yeah i could have gotten a simple gig switch but why pay $20 for a 4port dumb switch when i can spend $100 and get 8-10 ports + PoE?
(2) i keep all the Asus firmware features that I've come to love and don't have to manage everything on a damn phone screen.
(3) having full-on routers serve as additional mesh points means they can do tons of stuff a tuning fork antenna or limited AP 'mesh' point would not be able to. already set up a robot on craigslist to watch for used asus routers to pop up that are compatible with aimesh

so in short this is the cheapest solution and i don't have to compromise on features.

$199 out the door at B&H Camera with 2 day expedited shipping.

google would have cost $250 + another $50-$100 for PoE switch + hassle of cutting & running more ethernet.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:07 pm to
I've heard bad things over on r/homelabs about aimesh. It doesn't transfer devices well, it can be janky, etc. I'd like to hear your opinions after it gets set up
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:01 pm to


Oh you'll hear about it. Cad is never shy about calling out crap products even if he happens to own them.

I know what you're saying but since this is so new and Asus has a God in the form of a user named Rmerlin, I'm thinking they'll work the kinks out.

They just released this in what... November?
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13488 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:08 pm to
Can y’all figure this shite out and come to a consensus by September when I move please and thanks?
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:23 pm to
Buy the google, set It up, and forget it
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78128 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:53 am to
quote:

Buy the google, set It up, and forget it

No ddns, no Google for me.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:24 am to
quote:

consensus by September


Moving next week, I need a faster turn around than that
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78128 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:29 am to
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Moving next week, I need a faster turn around than that


from everything i've read; orbi, ubiquiti, google and velop have made this into pretty much a 'plug in and forget about it' type of setup.

you trade features for ease of use; no surprise there.

i'm not saying asus is the way to go at all; i picked that for me because i'm already heavily invested/familiar with the featureset and honestly i'm 51 and don't want to learn all this crap again or have to manage my router on a phone screen.

the other nice thing about asus is i can always set up the units in traditional AP mode if the AiMesh isn't up to snuff which i suspect is just a matter of firmware updates away.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:31 am
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:12 pm to
I am thinking I am leaning Linksys Velop
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:06 pm to
Velop is a great system if you can stomach the price.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:05 am to
For years I thought our Internet was terrible. Turned out I just needed to splurge on some good equipment. The Google Mesh works excellent.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15521 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:26 am to
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Ubiquiti's APs aren't necessarily mesh either. It's just like setting your router to AP only mode, but Ubiquiti has a pretty seamless transition from one AP to another


What gear from Ubiquiti are you looking at? What main router? I just don't really see anything I like in these mesh systems.

Thinking of getting something a little more office oriented and using MOCA to backhaul to some other places in my house.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3799 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:59 am to
What trade offs come by going with a “network in a box” mesh system vs a router and APs, say from Ubiquiti. All my AP locations are hardwired through a PoE switch.

Does a “mesh in a box” handle switching between APs better than the router with APs? I won’t necessarily have a computer or anything always online, if that would otherwise help.
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
898 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:09 pm to
The Best Wi-Fi Mesh-Networking Kits for Most People

This is the best article I've seen written on this topic. And, it specifically addresses Ubiquiti's UAP devices.

Mesh systems are consumer grade products for environments where standard wireless routers don't provide adequate coverage and where having wired access points is either impossible or undesirable. Mesh systems are very easy to use, but lack the features most wireless routers and enterprise level equipment, like the Ubiquiti APs, provide. Most people don't need those advanced features, so the easier to use mesh systems are a better choices for them.

The author didn't have any roaming issues with the mesh systems he tested. I think you could get better roaming using Ubiquiti APs, because you can tune their transmit power so they aren't stepping on each other.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78128 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
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In January, Asus released a firmware update called AiMesh that adds support for mesh networking to many of its existing routers, as well as some new ones the company announced at CES 2018.


Interesting, they didn't review Asus. Didn't realize this was just released in 2018, it has to be just barely out of beta.

I'm going to hardwire my old Asus as an AP for now and see how this works and will reconsider Aimesh if/when I need better range or throughput.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15521 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:37 pm to
So what I am thinking about now is this from Ubiquiti:

UniFi Security Gateway as my router
UniFi Switch 8 60W should be fine
2-3x UniFi AP AC Pro

$450-600 depending on number of APs, seems to be a lot more power there and room for expansion for the $.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78128 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:24 pm to
stop rubbing our faces in your $30/mo gig pipe.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15521 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:04 pm to
It's not that cheap. It's like $60 I think.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78128 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:53 pm to
just got a notfication from fedex; the beast has arrived!



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