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re: Home Mesh Wifi

Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:36 pm to
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From my research, I’m still unsure what I want to go with,



That where I was a few months ago. I finally went with Google because of the price. It was ~$75 cheaper than the others, and all the reviews seemed to rate them about the same in performance. The one thing Google doesn't offer - advanced settings - I had no interest in.

It's worked very well for me. Simple setup, simple operation, app based.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:43 pm to
Mesh systems generally "amplify" your coverage throughout your house with wireless points. For the basic consumer, they work extremely well.

I want some dedicated APs (Like Ubiquitis AC Pro or AC Lite), which require a POE connection, so I can have more indepth trafficking and monitoring of my network.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I want some dedicated APs (Like Ubiquitis AC Pro or AC Lite), which require a POE connection


this is where i'm confused when the question was raised if ubiquiti supports backchannel ethernet.
Posted by thibtigerfan
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:06 pm to
I am looking for simple but effective.

Want the satellites to be wireless and be fast enough to stream tv
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:14 pm to
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this confuses me. i don't know all the terminology but i assume any AP I add will be connected via PoE.


Backhauling with a mesh network is how your base station and satellites talk to each other. Wired back hauling is done through ethernet, wireless is takes up one of your channels to do it. Typical mesh networks are tri band, essentially making one band for backhauling. If you can do it wired, then you can free up a band for more network usage if your mesh network supports it. Unfortunately some companies don't make use of of the third band if you go with wired backhaul. I don't think the google wifi does, I know Eero does allow use of triband if you wire backhaul. Unsure if Ubiquiti does it if you go with two router only models, trying to find that out. The system version isn't capable of wired backhaul at all because of the design of the satellites.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:17 pm to
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I am looking for simple but effective. Want the satellites to be wireless and be fast enough to stream tv


Google and Ubiquiti are by far the simplest. Depends on the size of your house. Google Wifi range is under 5000 sq ft I believe depending on the placement of your satellites if you have 3 of them, Ubiquiti is 20000 sq ft. Google you can add more satellites, but I heard people have issues if you get to 6. Ubiquiti you are limited to 2 satellites that come in the package, you can't run a wire long distance to another building like you can with Google.

Google's app is also substantially easier to use since they simplified their settings. It's all app based too, Ubiquiti has web based tools as well as an app.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Ubiquiti you are limited to 2 satellites that come in the package, you can't run a wire long distance to another building like you can with Google.


my FiL has 2 ubiquit 'thingies' that beam a direct signal from his house to his barn.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
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my FiL has 2 ubiquit 'thingies' that beam a direct signal from his house to his barn


Yeah, the ubiquiti has an awesome range. The Google Wifi version might have issue supporting something like that without running wired backhauling because of the lesser range capabilities of their model. They do have wired backhaul though, so they can support longer distances between buildings than ubiquiti.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:24 pm to
but to my original question; can i just add 1 (or 2?) ubiquiti APs and extend the range of my existing asus?

is this a bad idea for any reason?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:24 pm to
Thing that seems to be pulling me to Ubiquiti is they have a home network connect adapter that lets you connect to your home network from anywhere. It's a neat little device.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Thing that seems to be pulling me to Ubiquiti is they have a home network connect adapter that lets you connect to your home network from anywhere. It's a neat little device.


tell me more about this. is this like a VPN? right now i put one PC in the dmz and enable remote desktop on it.
Posted by thibtigerfan
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:26 pm to
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my FiL has 2 ubiquit 'thingies' that beam a direct signal from his house to his barn.


This is similar to what I am looking to do. how is the speed and coverage in the barn?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

but to my original question; can i just add 1 (or 2?) ubiquiti APs and extend the range of my existing asus? is this a bad idea for any reason?


I think you can, depends on if you are happy with your asus. I am not sure how well those perform the hand offs if you move around your house. I am switching because I am not happy with the performance of my main router.
Posted by thibtigerfan
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:27 pm to
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Yeah, the ubiquiti has an awesome range


Are we talking about the Ubiquiti AmpliFi HD?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
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tell me more about this. is this like a VPN? right now i put one PC in the dmz and enable remote desktop on it.


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Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
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Are we talking about the Ubiquiti AmpliFi HD?


That's the one I am talking about.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:35 pm to
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This is similar to what I am looking to do. how is the speed and coverage in the barn?


they are direct-beam doohickeys i think and are supposed to be good for up to 2 miles.

seems to work great.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:36 pm to
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I think you can, depends on if you are happy with your asus. I am not sure how well those perform the hand offs if you move around your house. I am switching because I am not happy with the performance of my main router.


i'm VERY happy with the firmware. i'm not happy with the hardware (its at least 4 years old now).

so i guess i'd be in for a whole-system replacement which means i have to forget everything i love about RMERLIN and the control I have over my existing network.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:36 pm to
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they are direct-beam doohickeys i think and are supposed to be good for up to 2 miles. seems to work great.


Ah, yeah, those aren't a mesh system thing.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Ah, yeah, those aren't a mesh system thing.


they look just like the APs but he's got them strung up outdoors. so its a ubiquiti 'branded' product but not part of the core MESH tech?
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