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Europe will require USB-C chargers. Apple isn't happy

Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3459 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:21 pm
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The European Union proposed new rules on Thursday that will make USB-C ports standard on smartphones, tablets, cameras, phones, portable speakers and handheld video game systems.

The move is a setback for Apple (AAPL), which uses its own "Lightning" port on the iPhone. While the new rules are years away from coming into force, Apple could be compelled to make changes to its signature product.

"European consumers were frustrated long enough about incompatible chargers piling up in their drawers. We gave industry plenty of time to come up with their own solutions, now [the] time is ripe for legislative action for a common charger," EU tech chief Margrethe Vestager said in a statement.

EU citizens own three mobile phone chargers on average, according to the European Commission, the bloc's executive arm. But 38% of consumers have not been able to charge their phone on at least one occasion because they didn't have the correct charger to hand.

Roughly €2.4 billion ($2.8 billion) is spent annually on standalone chargers that do not come with electronic devices, according to the Commission.

European officials have been pushing the tech industry to standardize chargers for more than a decade. During that time, the number of mobile phone charging ports on the market has declined from 30 to three.

Apple said it would continue to "engage with stakeholders to help find a solution that protects consumer interest."

"We remain concerned that strict regulation mandating just one type of connector stifles innovation rather than encouraging it, which in turn will harm consumers in Europe and around the world," the company added in a statement.

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If the iPhone 14 wasn't going to ditch the lightning port, I'm pretty sure this will just ensure that it happens. There is no need for lighting connector to exist at this point given most of the iPads and Macbook have already moved to USB-C.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:15 pm to
Government shouldn’t be micromanaging tech like that.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11174 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 5:12 am to
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Government shouldn’t be micromanaging tech like that.


Apple's exec's jobs are to make the company money, not make life easier for non Apple users. Consumers can vote with their feet. They're going to C anyway ( half my Apple shite uses C now, but that's besides the point). Euro trash bureaucrats have no business micro managing commerce and industry like that. What if they had said we prefer Apple's lighting and want everyone to switch to it. People would shite a brick...
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:48 am to
I hate government nanny-stating more than I hate Apple's idiotic proprietary bullshite, but I hate them both. So bah, humbug, no matter who wins.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70869 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:50 am to
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But 38% of consumers have not been able to charge their phone on at least one occasion because they didn't have the correct charger to hand.


That's on them.

Ain't that hard to know which charger is the right one.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:26 am to
And what happens when USB-C is no longer the standard? Do we expect the dinosaur bureaucrats to be able to update those laws?

This is a very dumb idea.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2505 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:52 am to
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Apple's exec's jobs are to make the company money, not make life easier for non Apple users.


It’s not just non-apple users that are screwed by the lightning ports. We have a variety of gadgets that most are on the USB-C except a few apple products. It’s sucks and wish apple would get their head out of their arse and do this on their own.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:57 am to
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Apple's exec's jobs are to make the company money, not make life easier for non Apple users.


I don't understand this comment. How is forcing usb-c onto apple users make life easier for non-apple users? If anything all it does is make life easier for Apple users.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11174 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:09 am to
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It’s sucks and wish apple would get their head out of their arse and do this on their own.

I agree it's time for Apple to go all in with C, still, it;s none of any Govt.s business to be micro managing shite like this.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7454 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:09 pm to
Easy fix, just include a LC to USBC dongle with the iPhone
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:26 pm to
I don’t know why they would be THAT unhappy. We all know the iPhone is going to C at some point. Just do it already.

They should be glad it was C they chose anyway
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:28 pm to
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It’s not just non-apple users that are screwed by the lightning ports. We have a variety of gadgets that most are on the USB-C except a few apple products. It’s sucks and wish apple would get their head out of their arse and do this on their own.

Which is funny because Apple has really been at the forefront of incorporating USB-C into their devices. Hell, I had a MacBook from I think 2015 that was the first to roll out with it. Then it came to the iPad Pro. And that’s when I figured it would have a good chance to head to the iPhone. And here we are.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29982 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 6:55 am to
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And what happens when USB-C is no longer the standard? Do we expect the dinosaur bureaucrats to be able to update those laws?

This is a very dumb idea.


Ye it is, mostly for this very reason. Idiotic actually. A proposal for a law that won't be enacted for several years about tech that that is already on probably 70% of the mobile devices out there.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 7:25 am to
Have they created a market for dongles or something that makes a lot of money?
This post was edited on 9/25/21 at 7:28 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:02 am to
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Which is funny because Apple has really been at the forefront of incorporating USB-C into their devices.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:20 am to
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Ye it is, mostly for this very reason. Idiotic actually. A proposal for a law that won't be enacted for several years about tech that that is already on probably 70% of the mobile devices out there.

well i havent read the exact law, and the title of the article might just be honing in on USBc because it tis the standard. I believe that manufacturers should be required to use the market standard. The market standard doesnt change THAT often. Where it would be a different plug every 5-10 years. to most people that 2 to 5 phones.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79117 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:06 pm to
Is he wrong? The 12 inch Macbook was one of the first major launches with USB-C unless I'm missing something
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11145 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Government shouldn’t be micromanaging tech like that.

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But 38% of consumers have not been able to charge their phone on at least one occasion because they didn't have the correct charger to hand.

Talk about a major government overreach for a very small inconvenience.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:22 pm to
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???


MacBook 2015 was the first notebook announced with USB-C, it featured no other ports aside from that single USB-C for all I/O including charging.
1 year later MacBook Pro was all USB-C, no other ports.

Unsurprisingly, as a manufacturer like Apple, known to have high attach rates and users with $$$, went USB-C exclusive on their notebooks, a huge market for USB-C products geared towards Apple users popped up quite early.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65763 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:13 pm to
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known to have high attach rates and users with $$$


Lol Asia no one has Apple products. And they're quite a bit behind Samsung in EU and losing ground over the last year.

The Apple sheep thing is mostly just an unintelligent American thing for basics that cling to social media "coolness factor" while having little actual technical knowledge because they can't fathom trying other products. They are also usually the last to get new features often years behind others.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 2:16 pm
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