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"Why Soccer is so Boring" article
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:09 am
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:09 am
Why Soccer is so Boring
The author makes some valid points.
The author makes some valid points.
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It’s “the beautiful game,” and for most of my adult life I’ve been patiently informed, usually by someone who calls it fútbol, that I simply lack the sophistication to appreciate it. But they’re wrong. Soccer isn’t beautiful. It’s boring—and it has nothing to do with sophistication.
The Better Team Loses Almost Half the Time
One of the best ways to determine how much luck is involved in a sport is to measure how often the worse team beats the better one. If the favorite wins 80 percent of the time, that’s a high-skill sport: the better side reliably prevails, and the remaining 20 percent is luck. If the favorite wins 55 percent of the time, you’re watching something closer to a coin flip.
By this measure soccer is the most random major sport there is. The favorite fails to win 45 percent of the time—higher than baseball (44.1%), hockey (41.4%), basketball (36.5%), and football (36.4%). Compare that to tennis, where over five sets the favorite loses only about 21 percent of the time. In other words, play long enough and skill wins out. In an average ninety-minute soccer match, the better team is only slightly more likely to win than the better player is in a single hand of poker. Both are basically coin flips.
The main thing that drives the randomness is low event count. A basketball game, for example, has around a hundred possessions per team. A tennis match has hundreds of points. But a soccer match can turn on a single shot hitting the crossbar, one bad call, or a ball bouncing off someone’s shin. There’s simply not enough scoring for skill to drown out luck.
It Bans the One Thing Humans Are Good At
The most basic problem with soccer is even simpler than the fact that it’s mostly luck. The sport’s founding rule is that you can use every part of your body except the one humans are best at. Homo sapiens are tool users. Using our hands is one of the basic traits that separate us from the other apes—we’re extraordinarily good at it, and our entire hunting strategy once depended on it. Our primary evolutionary edge is throwing things. No other animal can hurl a rock or spear with anything like our speed and accuracy. Our legs and feet evolved mainly for running. Soccer takes away the single greatest advantage of an ape that stood up on two legs partly to free its hands. It would be a great sport for a species that hunted by kicking rocks at its prey.
It’s not that dribbling, passing, and shooting with your feet is unimpressive. It’s that it’s impressive the way a dog walking on its hind legs is impressive: the miracle is that it can be done at all, not that this is the highest use of the organism. It would be like a version of basketball where you’re only allowed to dribble with your head. The best players would be some of the best athletes on earth—and they’d be demonstrating nothing except how much human talent can be squandered by arbitrarily banning the one thing we’re good at, provided you force enough children to practice.
Soccer Is All Middle
All good sports are stories. They’re built out of discrete units—at-bats, downs, points, possessions—each with a beginning and an end: something is attempted, something is resolved, and then you get another. The historian Michael Oriard, an NFL lineman before he was an academic, put it simply: American sports have a beginning, a middle, and an end. Soccer just drones on—pass it back, pass it sideways, pass it back, pass it sideways, lose it, win it back, pass it back again—for ninety minutes, and almost nothing ever finishes. It’s all middle.
It’s not that nothing happens; it’s that the same thing almost happens, over and over, for two hours. A promising run, broken up. A cross to no one. A shot into the third row. Soccer isn’t really about scoring. It’s about the threat of scoring, endlessly deferred. It’s all foreplay, no sex.
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I could recite all the tedious, oft-repeated ways to make soccer less boring—widen the goals, shrink the field, add hockey-style power plays, lose the goalkeepers, and give one player per side (the Reaper) a metal pole he may use to strike an opponent in the face no more than five times per game, provided he isn’t offside. But I don’t have time to solve all of soccer’s problems.
Soccer’s greatest trick is convincing a billion people that frustration is suspense, that scarcity is beauty, and that being bored stiff means you’ve finally become sophisticated.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:36 am to ClientNumber9
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Soccer Is All Middle
While I disagree with most of the article, I think this is a big a reason as any why Americans have a tough time becoming soccer fans. In all of our other sports, there are lots of small moments that have stat indications that you can cheer for: every shot made in basketball, hits in baseball, first downs in football. Soccer doesn't really have that.
While we can appreciate a great pass out of the back to relieve pressure and start an attack, if there is no goal, there isn't really anything to look back on to remember it.
This is not an argument against soccer. I can appreciate the little things when I watch, but it just takes longer for a new viewer to appreciate it.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:43 am to ClientNumber9
that's an all time bad article
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:04 am to ClientNumber9
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I could recite all the tedious, oft-repeated ways to make soccer less boring—widen the goals, shrink the field, add hockey-style power plays, lose the goalkeepers, and give one player per side (the Reaper) a metal pole he may use to strike an opponent in the face no more than five times per game, provided he isn’t offside. But I don’t have time to solve all of soccer’s problems.
Soccer’s greatest trick is convincing a billion people that frustration is suspense, that scarcity is beauty, and that being bored stiff means you’ve finally become sophisticated.
Widen goals. Gay
Hockey sucks so no thanks on power plays
This isn't 2005. No one gives a frick about people that shite on soccer anymore. Just look at the anti messi posts on this board. Fans with a brain don't get baited by retarded American "HE CHOKES, HE ISN'T THE GOAT" First Take filler talking points. There is a beauty if soccer players knowing their role and coming together as a team and morphing into a great team. I don't care if you are defensive, offensive, counterattacking, tiki taka, possession based, huff ball. There is a beauty in differing play styles and negating your opponents strengths.
Enough of the dumbass ragebaiting. This is the most watched world cup in American history and it will only keep growing. Stop giving retards like the writer of this shite opinion piece views.
I too can make arguments (even uninformed and retarded ones) about why the NBA, NFL, and College Football (my first love) are dogshit nowadays.
Enough ragebaiting. This is the one board that shite doesn't work in. Take it from a long time troller of the OT and Movie Board
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:09 am to ClientNumber9
quote:
The author makes some valid points.
Not really
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:31 am to ClientNumber9
quote:Other than very rare cases in the NFL, soccer is the only sport that regularly ends in a tie.
The favorite fails to win 45 percent of the time—higher than baseball (44.1%), hockey (41.4%), basketball (36.5%), and football (36.4%).
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:40 am to ClientNumber9
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The Better Team Loses Almost Half the Time
Insert NFL fans talking about "parity" here.
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It Bans the One Thing Humans Are Good At
What a strange take, guess we should can swimming as a sport because we as humans aren't as good at it as fish? Are we mad at golf because they use a stick to hit the ball instead of their hand?
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Soccer Is All Middle
Soccer is all tension because at any moment a play could suddenly break out and the game goes from 0 to 100 mph as a pass finds a seam in the D. Just because the NFL fills all the standing around time with commercials, puff pieces, and slowmo replays doesn't mean that the 3 hour broadcast for a football game isn't mostly guys standing around on a field in between the next 5-10s burst of activity.
And I like football, I just also like soccer. Saying that one sport should be more like another sport to better appeal is asinine, following that logic path means you should only have 1 sport.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 11:41 am
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:48 am to saderade
quote:This is the most retarded part of a really retarded screed
Other than very rare cases in the NFL, soccer is the only sport that regularly ends in a tie
28% of EPL games (the league selected) end in draws
55% the favorite wins
17% the underdog wins
So to make his first bullet
quote:makes clear the “postdoctoral researcher” who wrote this didn’t read the paper he cited and just looked at the win % and has no idea that draws are even an outcome
The Better Team Loses Almost Half the Time
Force those draws to have a winner and assume 50-50 coin flips and that underdog win % falls to 31%, which would be the smallest of the 5 sports. In reality it’s way less because they aren’t coin flips, on average the favorite is better and deeper
Genuinely retarded, as expected of an academic
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:56 am to ClientNumber9
He doesn't understand.
Soccer gives you the only true champions.
You play everyone twice home and away, team with most points wins.
You will never get the giants beating the patriots. The best team across the season always wins.
Soccer gives you the only true champions.
You play everyone twice home and away, team with most points wins.
You will never get the giants beating the patriots. The best team across the season always wins.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/21/26 at 1:30 pm to ClientNumber9
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The Better Team Loses Almost Half the Time
One of the best ways to determine how much luck is involved in a sport is to measure how often the worse team beats the better one. If the favorite wins 80 percent of the time, that’s a high-skill sport: the better side reliably prevails, and the remaining 20 percent is luck. If the favorite wins 55 percent of the time, you’re watching something closer to a coin flip.
By this measure soccer is the most random major sport there is. The favorite fails to win 45 percent of the time—higher than baseball (44.1%), hockey (41.4%), basketball (36.5%), and football (36.4%). Compare that to tennis, where over five sets the favorite loses only about 21 percent of the time. In other words, play long enough and skill wins out. In an average ninety-minute soccer match, the better team is only slightly more likely to win than the better player is in a single hand of poker. Both are basically coin flips.
The main thing that drives the randomness is low event count. A basketball game, for example, has around a hundred possessions per team. A tennis match has hundreds of points. But a soccer match can turn on a single shot hitting the crossbar, one bad call, or a ball bouncing off someone’s shin. There’s simply not enough scoring for skill to drown out luck.
what does this even mean? Do we only watch sports for "sports skill," or is that one of the many things we watch sports for. There is strategy and coaching, teamwork, and a whole host of things that are as, if not more, important than just "skill."
Soccer actually has the best balance of all of those features. It doesn't rely on separate offense vs. defense sections (baseball) or overly tactical coaching (football). And with sub limitations (over basketball and hockey), a lot more long term planning is important. You can't sub out all 5 players in one go and change the game. Your pre-game decisions have A LOT more impact in soccer.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 1:48 pm to ClientNumber9
Soccer has its problems, and yes there are reasons why its popularity in this country will be stymied, but simply having promotion/relegation in European domestic leagues makes it more interesting than American sports.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 6:01 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:I don’t think a good counter point to an article saying a sport is boring is to respond “nuh uh 1/3 actually ends in ties”
28% of EPL games (the league selected) end in draws
It’s actually jarring to read that
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 7/21/26 at 6:28 pm to ClientNumber9
I was about to trash this article until…
IN.
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give one player per side (the Reaper) a metal pole he may use to strike an opponent in the face no more than five times per game
IN.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 6:51 pm to lsupride87
quote:It’s a direct counter to
I don’t think a good counter point to an article saying a sport is boring is to respond “nuh uh 1/3 actually ends in ties”
quote:which is factually inaccurate
The Better Team Loses Almost Half the Time
quote:That’s a personal problem
It’s actually jarring to read that
Why are you still here anyway? You seem to actually like this sport
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:36 pm to RemouladeSawce
I actually do like soccer. I think it has obvious faults like every single sport.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:07 pm to lsupride87
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I don’t think a good counter point to an article saying a sport is boring is to respond “nuh uh 1/3 actually ends in ties”
What’s wrong with ties? It’s actually one of the more enjoyable things about soccer to me. Sometimes a game ends a draw. That point can be massive for teams in the standings for a multitude of reasons. In a sport that actually crowns the best team over the course of a season draws can actually be pretty exciting.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:01 am to ClientNumber9
Every single thing said in that article is completely true and quite obvious but naturally the soccer purists are going to not get it because they're basically a cult.
They have no actual interest in having a meaningful discussion about anything.
They have no actual interest in having a meaningful discussion about anything.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:50 am to StansberryRules
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Every single thing said in that article is completely true and quite obvious but naturally the soccer purists are going to not get it because they're basically a cult. They have no actual interest in having a meaningful discussion about anything
TLDR
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:44 am to ClientNumber9
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The author makes some valid points.
The "author" is an AI LLM.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 10:45 am
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