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re: The way they determine offsides is killing the game
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:49 am to theballguy
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:49 am to theballguy
I think they have done a really good job with it. It’s lightning fast compared to what the EPL does and doesn’t disrupt the pace of play.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:30 am to theballguy
Football, the most popular sport in the US, has dozens of highly subjective and technical calls. One plainly defined and objectively enforced rule is not effecting the popularity of soccer in the US.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:43 am to lsupride87
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Then play good defense and don’t rely on your opponents toe being slightly behind you
Having a tight line and setting offside traps is part of the game. Often the call is made because a player is crossing the defensive line at a full sprint. So, although only a small part of the offensive player’s body is offside at the split second, the call can be the difference between an easy break and an over cooked pass. As a Chelsea supporter I know this all too well.
As long as the rule is objective, leave it alone.
The hockey analogy is inept because it is a much more crowded playing surface.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:06 am to dgnx6
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Being the goal keeper means nothing or else the keeper can just run up the field and make everyone offside.
Huh?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:28 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
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Offsides
Nobody who says this gets an opinion. That includes in football.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 1:54 pm to bulletprooftiger
quote:Had nothing to do with the types of plays that break down in the box
Having a tight line and setting offside traps is part of the game.
It’s complete chaos in there and offside comes down to complete luck and often times a bad play by the defenders
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Sure. But when you add another clause to the rule you get more subjectivity and longer reviews.
Americans, who claim to love freedom and less regulation, crave it for some reason in their sports.
What I like about soccer is that the rules can be fit on a single sheet of paper.
Americans, who claim to love freedom and less regulation, crave it for some reason in their sports.
What I like about soccer is that the rules can be fit on a single sheet of paper.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:03 pm to Broski
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I'm sure if they fixed that (and they likely will) the American fans that tune in only for the World Cup, will find another reason to complain about.
Americans aren’t the only ones complaining. Like at all. We have other sports to bitch about.
Having a floating boundary line with essentially no margin for error is a recipe for complaining. Particularly when the actual boundary line is more like a reference point, and there are missed fouls that obviously affect plays.
Oh and you saying they likely will “fix it” implies you understand that there is a problem.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:08 pm to RemouladeSawce
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Totally, it’s just like American football calling touchdowns when the ball barely breaks the plane. It’s so bad for the sport to use technology on plays with objective parameters, getting it right is so bad for interest here
The evolution of officiating in American football has made the game unbearable. There are lots of similarities in today’s soccer. Some things are way too over regulated while others are like oh well shite happens.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:28 pm to bulletprooftiger
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Football, the most popular sport in the US, has dozens of highly subjective and technical calls. One plainly defined and objectively enforced rule is not effecting the popularity of soccer in the US.
It definitely is. Not that hard to see…soccer pleb: “hey that guys toe is on the line that seems silly they called the goal back” gatekeeping American fan: “there are no wrong calls in futbol you should leave”
Also, the sports are not at all comparable in terms of the need and enforcement of rules. I actually appreciate that soccer is the most fluid, and the calls and timing aren’t always perfect. Going halfway there kind of sucks.
All that being said, I love the World Cup, this one has been great and I love how much more popular the sport has become in the US.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:42 pm to bulletprooftiger
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setting offside traps is part of the game.
That's the entire problem. It should not be. It's an obviously cheap and obnoxious strategy born out of a terrible rule.
The people who defend it are the exact same people who will tell you the 0-0 tie you just watched with 1 shot on goal was the most beautiful soccer game ever played.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:46 pm to StansberryRules
So is taking a charge in basketball. It’s called heads up defense.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:03 pm to OceanMan
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Having a floating boundary line with essentially no margin for error is a recipe for complaining. Particularly when the actual boundary line is more like a reference point, and there are missed fouls that obviously affect plays.
It needs to be feet. You stand on your feet. You don't stand on your elbows. You don't stand on your arse.
That's really my only complaint. Just go off of feet.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 5:05 pm to OceanMan
quote:Wait till American football fans hear about the line of scrimmage
Having a floating boundary line with essentially no margin for error is a recipe for complaining
The NFL/CFB interest will be over
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/28/26 at 5:29 pm to RemouladeSawce
My favorite defensive play is when a DB smartly gets fricking burned off the line of scrimmage by a WR and the get the offside flag on the offense
There is no comparison in the two offside rules and anyone that compares it is foolish either way
There is no comparison in the two offside rules and anyone that compares it is foolish either way
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/28/26 at 5:33 pm to lsupride87
frick this thread is still going?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 6:04 pm to Bigbens42
It also risks ruining the spectacle even further
With Offside traps being more risky you will see significantly more teams sit further back and play low blocks as you can't risk trying to play people offside.
It will slow the game down considerably from a pace of play perspective in my opinion.
Defenders aren't just going to play the same way and not adapt to the rule.
With Offside traps being more risky you will see significantly more teams sit further back and play low blocks as you can't risk trying to play people offside.
It will slow the game down considerably from a pace of play perspective in my opinion.
Defenders aren't just going to play the same way and not adapt to the rule.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:53 pm to lsupride87
You’re right. The better analogy is false start (offense) and off sides (defense).
Should the WR (or DT) have to be all the way across the line of scrimmage before the ball is snapped for it to be a false start?
Should the WR (or DT) have to be all the way across the line of scrimmage before the ball is snapped for it to be a false start?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:05 pm to bulletprooftiger
All these high and mighty football fans complaining about offsides when the NFL still doesn’t know what a catch is and then reviews a replay for 10 minutes to still get the call wrong
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