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re: Group of death
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:24 pm to Dandy Lion
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:24 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:
your point being that G is somehow more difficult?
Due to G having 4 competent teams, yes.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:26 pm to TN Bhoy
It´s already universally accepted that B is the toughest.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:27 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:
It´s already universally accepted that B is the toughest.
The BBC disagrees. And so do the FIFA rankings.
Cumulative FIFA rankings by Group:
G: 45
D: 57
C: 81
B: 84
E: 91
A: 97
F: 105
H: 113
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:27 pm to castorinho
No doubt that we have to play some of the stronger countries, but if we come out of this group...watch out for the US...we'll be playing with some serious confidence heading into the next stage...and confidence that could take us a good ways in the tournament.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:30 pm to Dandy Lion
I understand your point. I just think it is debatable.
In my mind Spain/Germany is a wash. Portugal/Dutch wash.
I understand that there is a viewpoint that Chile is quite a bit tougher than the US, but you will not get me to agree with that.
Then you have Ghana v Australia. No way Australia advances. I will not say that about Ghana.
eta: Australia not Austalia
In my mind Spain/Germany is a wash. Portugal/Dutch wash.
I understand that there is a viewpoint that Chile is quite a bit tougher than the US, but you will not get me to agree with that.
Then you have Ghana v Australia. No way Australia advances. I will not say that about Ghana.
eta: Australia not Austalia
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:32 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:too simplistic.
Cumulative FIFA rankings by Group:
This group has the reigning title holder, who also bookmarks that title with two European championships, and the previous runner up.
Chile is quite strong (they´d get out of that group, but may not get out of B).
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:36 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
TN Bhoy
bringing the booom
lets see two top euro teams the last 3 major competitions wc and euros
the best team in confacaf and the best team in africa the last 8 years
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:46 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:
It´s already universally accepted that B is the toughest.
Nah, I have checked multiple news outlets from a few countries to leave out the bias factor and they're all making cases for G, B and D
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:54 pm to castorinho
Group B is the group of death.
Statisticaly we dominated Ghana in the 2010 WC and Howard allowing a near post goal was the difference.
Portugal I saw play Israel twice and was not impressed.
Nother saying it won't be tough but it could be worse, we would probably overlook a team like Nigeria, we no doubt will not overlook Ghana.
GROUP B IS GROUP OF DEATH IMO.
Statisticaly we dominated Ghana in the 2010 WC and Howard allowing a near post goal was the difference.
Portugal I saw play Israel twice and was not impressed.
Nother saying it won't be tough but it could be worse, we would probably overlook a team like Nigeria, we no doubt will not overlook Ghana.
GROUP B IS GROUP OF DEATH IMO.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:55 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
once again you have no idea what you are talking about on this board
Ghana owns us and we have no where near the depth or technical ability of Portugal
go back to posting nonsense on the poli board
Ghana owns us and we have no where near the depth or technical ability of Portugal
quote:
S.E.C. Crazy
go back to posting nonsense on the poli board
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:00 pm to castorinho
I think it's B. Last WC's two finalists, a terrific Chile, and a very underrated Australia. The Socceroos advanced to the knockout phase in 2006, and finished 1-1-1 in 2010. Everyone always thinks they are an easy out, and they always play tough (well, except that thrashing to Germany).
Using the ELO ratings, Group B has 3 teams in the top 10 and two in the top 5. (Spain #2, Dutch #5, Chile #5, and Australia is #32). Group G is still really tough, but not as tough. Germany is #3, Portugal #8, and the USA #13 with Ghana at #33 (we tend to overrate them due to our past WC's)
G is no slouch, but B is the toughest group.
Using the ELO ratings, Group B has 3 teams in the top 10 and two in the top 5. (Spain #2, Dutch #5, Chile #5, and Australia is #32). Group G is still really tough, but not as tough. Germany is #3, Portugal #8, and the USA #13 with Ghana at #33 (we tend to overrate them due to our past WC's)
G is no slouch, but B is the toughest group.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:02 pm to Baloo
quote:they´re like the Rep of Ireland. If they make it, they´re hard to beat. Very, very scrappy.
Australia
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:03 pm to Dandy Lion
The Aussies are the USA of 20 years ago. Always fit, good athletes, not much skill. But fitness and athleticism (and size) can get you to the round of 16.
Well, not with this draw, but usually.
Well, not with this draw, but usually.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:06 pm to Fleur de Diable
I would rather be us than Costa Rica. CR has England, Italy and Uraguay
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:08 pm to GenesChin
quote:Yes, that´s the third of the three ´heavy´ groups.
I would rather be us than Costa Rica. CR has England, Italy and Uraguay
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:17 pm to Dandy Lion
CR has looked good recently. No certaintly they will remain in good form next summer, but they can beat England and possibly draw the others. They probably won't advance, but they will be a tough out for that group.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:22 pm to GenesChin
Yeah, CR has it rough. Still can't believe US was 50-50 to get group H. #AssRaped
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:24 pm to Baloo
quote:
I think it's B. Last WC's two finalists, a terrific Chile, and a very underrated Australia. The Socceroos advanced to the knockout phase in 2006, and finished 1-1-1 in 2010. Everyone always thinks they are an easy out, and they always play tough (well, except that thrashing to Germany).
Using the ELO ratings, Group B has 3 teams in the top 10 and two in the top 5. (Spain #2, Dutch #5, Chile #5, and Australia is #32). Group G is still really tough, but not as tough. Germany is #3, Portugal #8, and the USA #13 with Ghana at #33 (we tend to overrate them due to our past WC's)
G is no slouch, but B is the toughest group.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:26 pm to Baloo
quote:
The Aussies are the USA of 20 years ago. Always fit, good athletes, not much skill. But fitness and athleticism (and size) can get you to the round of 16.
You're completely off base this cycle.
This cycle is a few older players and a bunch of younger, smaller technical players. If they develop correctly they'll be dangerous by Russia, but they're absolute garbage this cycle.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:45 pm to TN Bhoy
And they were considered crap last cycle too, and the one before. The Socceroos are consistently underrated by soccer fans and writers. They drew twice with Japan during qualifying, so they can't totally suck.
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