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re: Zelensky: Ukrainian loss could force US to choose between ‘collapse of NATO’ or war
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:07 am to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:07 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:
“If Ukraine would lose, if Russia would occupy Ukraine, Russia will continue going towards Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera,” Zelensky said in an interview with NBC News
“So you need to send me another $100 billion. Stat.”
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:13 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:
collapse of NATO
Now A Trans Organization
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:14 am to The Maj
quote:Let them go. Russia was right. This was a provocation by the West. Reason enough to elect Trump.
We sure pay like it is though…
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:17 am to Northwestern tiger
Collapse of Nato??? What is the little bridge troll smoking?
How about we cut off aid and force the little shite to have peace talks with Russia?
Already the Ukrainians are surrendering in mass or refusing to fight after seeing the killing fields and the ridiculous and suicidal orders of lorde Zel and his corrupt tyrannical partners (that includes Biden, Miley and Austin).
How about we cut off aid and force the little shite to have peace talks with Russia?
Already the Ukrainians are surrendering in mass or refusing to fight after seeing the killing fields and the ridiculous and suicidal orders of lorde Zel and his corrupt tyrannical partners (that includes Biden, Miley and Austin).
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:17 am to Northwestern tiger
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Russia will continue going towards Baltic countries, Poland
Bull shite. Russia is not fricking around with Poland. The Polish people have zero in common with Russians. The issue with Ukraine is a third of them believe they are Russian. If any country is next it's Moldova. There are a lot of ethnic Russians there. But this would only happen under the current regime not a Trump regime.
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:19 am to Northwestern tiger
Ok, bye NATO.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:21 am to Northwestern tiger
Will never negotiate because we told them never to negotiate.
It's fricked up. The western countries have already told him that we will not officially enter that war. We will not officially put troops on the ground. A no win situation where his biggest allies have told him to frick off, and he still listens to us. Still sacrifices his people into a war meatgrinder.
Regular Ukrainians are the biggest victims in all of this. Russia invaded and is currently destroying their country. The Ukrainian government is working at the behest of foreign countries and not giving a frick about the life and death of their countrymen.
It's fricked up. The western countries have already told him that we will not officially enter that war. We will not officially put troops on the ground. A no win situation where his biggest allies have told him to frick off, and he still listens to us. Still sacrifices his people into a war meatgrinder.
Regular Ukrainians are the biggest victims in all of this. Russia invaded and is currently destroying their country. The Ukrainian government is working at the behest of foreign countries and not giving a frick about the life and death of their countrymen.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:24 am to Northwestern tiger
I never really understood the dynamics of the Obama/Biden engineered coup back in '14. I know it was a pro-Russian President that bit the dust, and that the 'revolt' was CIA Ops hands on with snipers amping up the violence, but I don't know what % of Ukraine was truly pro-Russia. We all know that Biden and the US was essentially using Ukraine as a cash cow for government insiders (like Joe/Hunter, Mitt Romney, et al) and even to the point of bio-labs that were a no-go anywhere else...save Wuhan.
The hope is that the people - en masse - become wise enough to realize that power truly corrupts, and that the more powerful elite groups of supposed 'public servants' become, the more corrupt they become as well. And I think it's like 'boiling a frog'...they don't even realize they have become corrupt. Think Mitch McConnel and Paul Ryan types.
The 'Second Coming' will be the Vision of Truth that comes out of what is left after the calamitous collapse. IMO, Jesus, the true and real Spirit of Truth which is the 'Individual' aspect of a God-based Universal Paradigm will - as prophesied and promised - step in and save Humanity from basic flaw of imperfection. Not to mention absolute Narcissism (Lucifer's Idea).
Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds, at least until the pain interferes with the perception. And even that may drive spiritual people, into the Spirit. "Rapture"...maybe.
Lord have mercy on all who worship true Love.
The hope is that the people - en masse - become wise enough to realize that power truly corrupts, and that the more powerful elite groups of supposed 'public servants' become, the more corrupt they become as well. And I think it's like 'boiling a frog'...they don't even realize they have become corrupt. Think Mitch McConnel and Paul Ryan types.
The 'Second Coming' will be the Vision of Truth that comes out of what is left after the calamitous collapse. IMO, Jesus, the true and real Spirit of Truth which is the 'Individual' aspect of a God-based Universal Paradigm will - as prophesied and promised - step in and save Humanity from basic flaw of imperfection. Not to mention absolute Narcissism (Lucifer's Idea).
Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds, at least until the pain interferes with the perception. And even that may drive spiritual people, into the Spirit. "Rapture"...maybe.
Lord have mercy on all who worship true Love.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:50 am to CamdenTiger
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I hate that these people are so evil that I’m having to support Russia, what a dang collapse of everything good and holy…
Your view of good and evil is indeed skewed if you support the aggressor in an illegal war and it is a totalitarian state led by Putin mounting the aggression.
Your post says more about you than the war..
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:54 am to Northwestern tiger
Frickin' football season is around the corner. Who cares about this stuff?
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:58 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:
Russia will continue going towards Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera
Putin will NOT go after a NATO country. He's not as stupid as he's painted to be.
I see Exalted Nazi Cyclops Zelensky has taken his fear mongering lessons from the American mainstream media though.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:00 am to TigerAxeOK
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I see Exalted Nazi Cyclops Zelensky has taken his fear mongering lessons from the American mainstream media though.
You are idiot.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:01 am to Northwestern tiger
Either NATO members pay up or go down as Trump promised.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:03 am to LSUvet72
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Either NATO members pay up or go down as Trump promised.
Yeah dude! You tough!
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:17 am to Northwestern tiger
There is zero reason for the US to still belong to NATO. None.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:47 am to CoachDon
If we're gonna play that game and pretend it's all about being an empathetic human and that citizenship plays no role, then allow me to slightly rephrase your question back to you:
Or tell me your thoughts regarding how we, as humans, should view and address the ongoing war in Ethiopia between the government of Ethiopia and the Tigray People's Liberation Front.
Your feigned altruism based upon being a member of the human race isn't selling that lame line of BS to anyone except the most gullible of individuals. Did you even know about either of these two conflicts in Africa? You're letting the media lead you around a fenced yard by your nose.
We have no business being involved in ANY foreign conflict that does not threaten our sovereignty.
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I will ask why you or anyone, based solely on your views as a human and not a US citizen, would think the Democratic Republic of the Congo should just give in and bend over to forced Rwandan aggression?
Or tell me your thoughts regarding how we, as humans, should view and address the ongoing war in Ethiopia between the government of Ethiopia and the Tigray People's Liberation Front.
Your feigned altruism based upon being a member of the human race isn't selling that lame line of BS to anyone except the most gullible of individuals. Did you even know about either of these two conflicts in Africa? You're letting the media lead you around a fenced yard by your nose.
We have no business being involved in ANY foreign conflict that does not threaten our sovereignty.
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:31 am to Swamp Angel
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We have no business being involved in ANY foreign conflict that does not threaten our sovereignty.
That was made clear in any statement I've made @ the conflict.
My comment @ humanism was solely to extrapolate the need for people to have a Western minded knee jerk to the narratives of defending Nazis (Ukaraine) or the big bad former USSR.
I don't disagree with you for the record. Perhaps I just went about it the wrong way or worded it poorly. IDK.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:57 am to Godfather1
quote:
“So you need to send me another $100 billion. Stat.”
Lindsay Graham said " this war was the best investment of money"
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:14 pm to CoachDon
My apologies for misunderstanding your intent. I think we're both 100% on the same page. (Not that being in agreement with me makes anyone right all the time.)
Next thing - how do we convince you to change that wildcat/UK logo next to your name to a tiger?
Next thing - how do we convince you to change that wildcat/UK logo next to your name to a tiger?
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:26 pm to burger bearcat
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No war...and ending NATO Sounds like a win-win.
Right?
Oh no! Not NATO. Take my eyes but not NATO!
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