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Zelensky: Ukrainian loss could force US to choose between ‘collapse of NATO’ or war

Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:31 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23483 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:31 am
Things must have not been going well for him recently.

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“If Ukraine would lose, if Russia would occupy Ukraine, Russia will continue going towards Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera,” Zelensky said in an interview with NBC News. “And they will start war with one of the NATO countries, and at this moment, the U.S. would have to choose the collapse of NATO or go to war.”


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Time to end this madness. Time for Ukraine to negotiate an end to this war and accept reality, they will never defeat Russia.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24784 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:35 am to
Collapse of NATO.

Next question.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64618 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:37 am to
War mongering arse wipes.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27067 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:58 am to
Nah Ukraine isn’t that important on the world stage…. We sure pay like it is though…
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:12 am to
quote:

Nah Ukraine isn’t that important on the world stage


Correct

quote:

We sure pay like it is though


“We” pay like that because the Biden crime family is beholden to them and they must pay to cover up their corruption
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8836 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:14 am to
No war...and ending NATO

Sounds like a win-win.

I'm in

F*ck NATO. That shite has long outlived any use it might have ever had.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8064 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:14 am to
quote:

Nah Ukraine isn’t that important on the world stage…. We sure pay like it is though…


They are central to the world’s corruption. Klaus called them essential to the New World Order. They are extorting our government to keep our own corruption secret.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123814 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:21 am to
quote:

However, he appeared confident that his country’s latest counteroffensive, which has finally gotten underway after months of speculation, could ultimately lead to Russia’s loss if successful.
Well, now we're talkin'!
If the counteroffensive is successful, it could succeed. Go team!
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15300 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:24 am to
Just another reminder to discourage all friends and family members from joining the military. The new "thank you for your service", is saved for people who go out and get a job and work, not take gov assistance, not drain our economy and strengthen our authoritarian government, and serve the community they live in.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50371 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:27 am to
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collapse of NATO


Net positive for the USA.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62395 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:47 am to
So, basically status quo? Or Status quo without NATO?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62395 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:50 am to
I hate that these people are so evil that I’m having to support Russia, what a dang collapse of everything good and holy…
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9134 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:50 am to
Someone needs to end this grifting piece of shite.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:54 am to
If Russia had this much difficulty with Ukraine, imagine how much of a beating Russia would get from Poland.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Time to end this madness. Time for Ukraine to negotiate an end to this war and accept reality, they will never defeat Russia.


I don't support the hyperbole in his statement. Nor do I support our financing a war vs the Russians.

However, I will ask why you or anyone, based solely on your views as a human and not a US citizen, would think Ukraine should just give in and bend over to forced Russian aggression.

Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12274 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:55 am to
He really should start turning to the nightclub owners for money. The nightclub and bar scenes are thriving in Ukraine
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9134 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:00 am to
This is not our fight. You have bought an illusion.

This is a money laundering operation began close to two decades ago and solidified in 2014.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8373 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:04 am to
Well Zelle, given that your pal Plugs is dragging his feet on those F-16's and them Abrams tanks I'd say you're not getting a good return on that $ 10 million dollar bribe to Plugs and Hunter.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:04 am to
one vote for collapse of NATO, if that is the choice*

*Somebody evacuate Eva Vlaardingerbroek first.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5703 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 8:07 am to
quote:

However, I will ask why you or anyone, based solely on your views as a human and not a US citizen, would think Ukraine should just give in and bend over to forced Russian aggression.


Borders are only as good as a nation’s ability to defend them. If Ukraine cannot defend its own territory, it should not antagonize its neighbor. If Ukraine hadn’t been bankrolled by our country, they would have worked out their differences with Russia long ago.
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