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re: Y’all smell the panic?

Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Wow this is retarded.

You might think so.

I guess it all depends on how the public perceives it;
was it an honest error and just an IT glitch, or was it an intentional, well-planned coup?

If we go the coup route, almost certainly we'd see charges of treason tossed around, and it certainly should be at least considered. I mean, we'd be talking about the deliberate deposing of the rightful President of the US; you can't get much higher on the list.

Other politicians would be scrambling to condemn it, as well as remove themselves as much as they could from the fallout. The Democratic Party would likely be toast, as would a whole lot of the mainstream media that currently is so supportive. Most of the public, who normally don't give much concern about "politics", would be angry.

Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15415 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:30 pm to
I think the Texas case brought on behalf of the state itself could be revisited in some way, and if it is I don’t know about on the hook for damages to the states themselves. However the fraud states may be on the hook for one gigantic arse 1983 action by their own citizens who they disenfranchised, not to mention the citizens of the states in the Texas action.

Along with some penalties and atty fees.
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2654 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:36 pm to
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I realize this is all unprecedented, but what's the endgame.. is there really a scenario where the fraud is "accepted" by the Dems, et al. and they actually remove Biden and reinstall Trump and his administration?

Like what's the process.. what do they want to happen?

As much as I would love that to happen, I just don't see it.
We the people kick his arse out of the office and replace him with legitimate winner. Why is this so hard to understand? Seriously... remove Biden either peacefully or with force if he cheated.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:39 pm to
Tell me what is going to change? I hope to God Xiden and co. Could each be arrested for treason and a laundry list of other crimes. Clearly, they do not have the best interest of this country.

I just don’t see it ever being “called back”.

Hang on for 2022. That’s our year.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18961 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:40 pm to
No
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26273 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:46 pm to
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If we go the coup route, almost certainly we'd see charges of treason tossed around, and it certainly should be at least considered. I mean, we'd be talking about the deliberate deposing of the rightful President of the US; you can't get much higher on the list.


Treason is specifically defined in the Constitution:

quote:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.


I am not sure that this current situation fits the specific definition. In and of itself (without the proven direct involvement of a hostile foreign government) election fraud is not an act of war against the United States. Its a separate federal crime.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56486 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:51 pm to
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I think the Texas case brought on behalf of the state itself could be revisited in some way, and if it is I don’t know about on the hook for damages to the states themselves. However the fraud states may be on the hook for one gigantic arse 1983 action by their own citizens who they disenfranchised, not to mention the citizens of the states in the Texas action.

Along with some penalties and atty fees.



I don't think we have to know or expect a remedy in order to keep digging to expose the truth.

If any single state is shown to have had its results flipped based on fraud, this becomes the biggest story in the history of our country.

Who know what will happen. Personally, I think the same people who were knowingly will to play a part in the theft are just going to keep denying and deflecting. We're going to be in the same place until the people demand a resolution.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5567 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:02 pm to
Skipped pages to get here but... what is the relief asked for in the complaint? Compare that with the sanction ability of the court. I imagine the court could rule the election vitiated by fraud although I doubt a court would go that far.

To be honest, if AZ is shown to be wrong and GA is shown to be wrong, both in favor of biden there could be some repercussions that should scare democrats
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42594 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:10 pm to
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EVEN IF it got to such a point that the Dems accepted fraud and removed Biden as POTUS, the office would fall to the next person in the line of succession. In this scenario, that would likely be Pelosi.


How so - IF the conclusion is that Biden should be removed, how does that elevate Harris??

Were they not on the same slot in the ballot?? could you vote for one and not the other?? is there any way of claiming that Biden's election should be negated but not Harris'?

I'm not sure there is a way to declare the election void, but if there is, it should make Harris susceptible to the same conclusion and anything that Biden did (Exec Orders, cabinet selections, et al) should also be come void.

ONLY sensible conclusion should be to reinstate the LAST duly elected executives as pro-tem officials and declare a new election immediately - also, all initiatives and orders and sign-offs should be immediately voided and all authority under them removed.

But I am absolutely positive non of that will happen.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26273 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:40 pm to
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How so - IF the conclusion is that Biden should be removed, how does that elevate Harris??

Were they not on the same slot in the ballot?? could you vote for one and not the other?? is there any way of claiming that Biden's election should be negated but not Harris'?

I'm not sure there is a way to declare the election void, but if there is, it should make Harris susceptible to the same conclusion and anything that Biden did (Exec Orders, cabinet selections, et al) should also be come void.


I mentioned in the post you quoted that the next person in line would likely be Pelosi, and not Harris for this exact reason. If the evidence causes the Democrats to remove Biden, Harris will be going too in all likelihood—unless she could show them/the public that she was unaware or uninvolved.

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ONLY sensible conclusion should be to reinstate the LAST duly elected executives as pro-tem officials and declare a new election immediately - also, all initiatives and orders and sign-offs should be immediately voided and all authority under them removed.


I get what you’re saying, and why...but that’s just not how it’s set up. Even IF all inaugurations, etc were “voided”...Trump’s term ended at 11:59:59 on January 20,2021. He has no claim to the Presidency after that time and cannot be re-inaugurated to take the office. It’s also not possible to hold a special election for President without amending the Constitution.

I know everyone here is tired of hearing all of that and it’s not what anyone wants to hear...but everyone invested in these developments regarding the election’s integrity need to have a realistic outlook at what happens next. There are no facts that lead to Donald Trump being inaugurated without his winning the 2024 POTUS election. That’s off the table.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26273 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:42 pm to
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I imagine the court could rule the election vitiated by fraud although I doubt a court would go that far.


They “could”, but it would be pointless and overturned on appeal. The judiciary (state or federal, including SCOTUS) doesn’t have the power to overturn or change the result of federal elections, or the power to remove members of Congress or officers of the Executive.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:49 pm to
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Y’all smell the panic?



What panic?

There is absolutely no way and no how Donald Trump or any other republican will ever be President again before January 2025 and democrats and every republican with a brain knows this to be true.

Anyone that suggests otherwise is doing nothing more than wish casting and spreading conservative fan fiction and it is irresponsible and embarrassing for them to do so.

The only way a republican will be installed as President is with a victory in the next Presidential election.

The 2020 election is over and democrats will have the White House until January 2025.

It's that simple. Get over it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3804 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:01 pm to
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I mentioned in the post you quoted that the next person in line would likely be Pelosi, and not Harris for this exact reason. If the evidence causes the Democrats to remove Biden, Harris will be going too in all likelihood—unless she could show them/the public that she was unaware or uninvolved.


You might be correct about all of that, but it seems 'effed up.

It's like a NASCAR race in which the driver gets disqualified for cheating, but instead of the 2nd place car being named the winner, either the cheating driver's pit crew wins or they randomly give the trophy to some fan in the 3rd row who wasn't even competing.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62780 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:04 pm to
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The 2020 election is over and democrats will have the White House until January 2025.

It's that simple. Get over it.

As much as I want Biden to be legally removed, I know it will never come to pass.
Even if the toss uo states would show Biden really lost, the Democrats will go with the fact the Electoral College did the actual voting and that can't be reversed.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4142 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:13 pm to
The 2020 election is over and democrats will have the White House until January 2025.

It's that simple. Get over it.


The loss of faith in the MSM by the general public should put the final nail in their credibility. That is a game-
changer.

Now, combine that with the stories that CVD-19 might have come from the lab in CHYNA after all.


After that, it is the states cleaning their damn voter rolls as Florida and Ohio did.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2311 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Anyone that suggests otherwise is doing nothing more than wish casting and spreading conservative fan fiction

You mean like saying Joe Biden got 81 million votes while recording record low percentage of counties won? Fan fiction like that? Progs and their “disinformation” while in the same breath say that there’s no border crisis, there’s more than two genders, and say George Floyd is a “hero”. Nothing can stop what is coming!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59875 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:24 pm to
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the next person in line would likely be Pelosi, and not Harris for this exact reason.


And this is the position we should have been faced with on Jan 20th, should Pence had fulfilled his constitutional duty and refused to certify fraudulent (and at the very least - suspicious) state EC results on Jan 6.

We would have been at exactly the same place, only the order would have been for all states to audit their results with the intent of inaugurating the winner of the 2020 election on Mar 4.

Instead, the lawful challenge process was derailed by ANTIFA agitators who embedded themselves in the patriot crowd the day of the EC challenges.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56486 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:41 pm to
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There is absolutely no way and no how Donald Trump or any other republican will ever be President again before January 2025 and democrats and every republican with a brain knows this to be true.



That’s simply not a certainty.

If fraud were proven, you’d probably see a huge red wave in 2022 based on the promise to impeach.

And if Democrats vote in the Senate not to impeach they risk more major losses in 2024. Remember, this would be under the premise of clear fraud.

But it’s premature to discuss remedy or conclusion. Getting to the truth is paramount no matter what.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59875 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:00 pm to
Precisely, which is why I said to someone earlier that unprecedented fraud requires unprecedented remedies.

As it stands, we don't know what we don't know, factually, but it sure does look like those of us who were concerned with henhouse security gigs being filled by foxes were over the target.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 6:47 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25455 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:03 pm to
The same “we the people” that blindly followed and allowed the government to shutdown our business, lose life savings and abandon the elderly to die lonely
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