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re: Yall are angry at the wrong people, re: birthright citizenship

Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476763 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Of course the people like you


Smart and/or wise people?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37561 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:14 pm to
If you don't have 2/3 as provided under the agreed upon process laid out in the Constitution, then you don't have overwhelming consensus .

Come on, even cousin lovers should understand this.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:21 pm to
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it only really affects Middle America


You've convinced yourself that a politically created false narrative is true.


You Christian white baws have a very safe majority...

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19307 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:21 pm to
A constitutional amendment will never take place on unless upheaval in country has occurred
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
247 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:27 pm to
Congress has effectively waived their authority on this and many other important issues facing this country. We elected Trump to fix our problems by hook or crook. If SCOTUS drops the ball on this, then Trump should ignore the ruling.

He controls the issuance of passports. He controls who is deported. Will it cause a "Constitutional Crisis"? Absolutely.

But this is where Trump is best. He focuses on a stable issue that he doesnt like...creates chaos and then solves the chaos by remaking or reframing the issue in a way that is better for America.

He said he wanted to be a dictator for "one day", America needs that day to be soon. He is the onl6 one who can fix the problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476763 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:31 pm to
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Congress has effectively waived their authority on this and many other important issues facing this country. We elected Trump to fix our problems by hook or crook. If SCOTUS drops the ball on this, then Trump should ignore the ruling.



Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26294 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Legislation can't override the Constitution

It’s literally the first step in the process.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2229 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:42 pm to
Pretty sure Trump knows this, hence why the EO and appeal to the SC. The SC will punt this back to congress to have them deal with it.

Agree with your point though about the shite bags in DC. SC will defer to congress, congress critters will stomp around like they want to do something, then say oh well we tried with zero changes made. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91524 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:51 pm to
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If you don't have 2/3 as provided under the agreed upon process laid out in the Constitution, then you don't have overwhelming consensus . Come on, even cousin lovers should understand this.
If 90% of a country wants something and a couple hundred corrupt people block it, you’re saying there’s no an overwhelming consensus in favor of that thing?
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 12:54 pm
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
247 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:03 pm to
The time for passivity has passed. If the United States is to survive, the Caterpillar that is the 1789 Constitution has to cocoon and remerge as something new.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10001 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:05 pm to
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But this power resides with the do nothing shite pieces in Washington DC, both sides. If they wanted this issue resolved, they'd create a constitutional amendment.


You didn’t do well in civics class I gather?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476763 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:05 pm to
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The time for passivity has passed. If the United States is to survive, the Caterpillar that is the 1789 Constitution has to cocoon and remerge as something new.


Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
247 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:16 pm to
I dont think most right-thinking citizens would object to the trains running on time, figuratively.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476763 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:19 pm to
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I dont think most right-thinking citizens would object to the trains running on time, figuratively.


It's sad that I get called unAmerican for defending freedom and the Constitution while people like you post this vomit.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115431 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:28 pm to
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It would need to be a constitutional amendment. Legislation can't override the Constitution


Wrong.

Congress could define what "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means to get rid of it (see Section 5).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476763 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:33 pm to
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Congress could define what "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means


Where was Congress granted the authority to unilaterally amend the Constitution?

So they could define "well-regulated militia" in the 2nd Amendment?

Or "freedom of speech" in the 1st?

quote:

see Section 5)


quote:

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Enforce the provisions, not redefine the provisions. They can only enforce the Constitutional authority (and the minimums therein).
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5800 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Call your legislators



They don't give a frick what I have to say

This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
247 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:08 pm to
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It's sad that I get called unAmerican for defending freedom and the Constitution while people like you post this vomit.


It's not that you are ignorant....it is obvious that is not true. It's not even that you are wrong. You just root for the wrong team....or more accurately, you say things the other team feels will stand in the way of them winning.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12196 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:14 pm to
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If people want change, force these idiots in Washington to do something about it.


OK

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Call your legislators, chew their ears off, daily. Make your voices heard and listened to.



This won't do diddly shite. Americans have guns for a reason. Right? Why is everyone scared to use them?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13673 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:20 pm to
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And if we can’t get a 2/3 vote?

We just keep on being lured towards our own destruction?


That's the "principled," honorable way to handle it... according to "real conservatives," like TDSFP, Massie etc.
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