re: WSJ: Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug? Ivermectin

quote:

---

But it was pushed early because fakechi was making money on it. 1000 dollars

---

While I 100% agree with this statement, the same can't be said for the EUA given to convalescent plasma. That's a huge head scratcher as there isn't a clear money trail and there isn't any real data to show that it even may have efficacy.

I honestly believe that the convalescent plasma debacle is that completely screwed up faster approval for therapeutics that have good data to support their usage.

quote:

---

horse medicine.

---

The drug has been on the WHO’s approved drug list for years and has been widely used on humans throughout the world.

quote:

---

little evidence to suggest that Ivermectin does anything

---

Plenty of evidence
Some are debating the quality of data, but there is data

Apparently there are many cultists who worship at the altar of the reductionist RCT
You know, the kind of fricks who probably want data to decide the best possible technique for getting a blow job...

The article you linked was treatment based on hospital admit (potentially sicker patients)
What about prophylactic use and outpatient use?

Below is a good point /counterpoint

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_42LVirfNI&pp=sAQA

quote:

---

Ivermectin, For and Against, with Tess Lawrie, Graham Walker & Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz

Rebel Wisdom32,769 views
Jul 25, 2021

In recent months, Ivermectin has gone from a little known anti parasite drug to a culture war battleground - for some it's a potential miracle drug for treating and prevention of Covid and for others it's over-hyped snake oil. Discussion of Ivermectin has also led to censorship from the Big Tech platforms. But the free speech/censorship dynamic is only part of the story - is also shows how broken our information landscape is - with the advocates on one side, and the skeptics on the other - creating echo chambers and filter bubbles, and broken sensemaking. In this film we hear from three voices, Tess Lawrie, one of the most outspoken advocates for Ivermectin, Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist and data nerd from Australia who has been examining the data, and Graham Walker, an ER doctor from San Francisco who has also been deep in the science and competing claims around Ivermectin.

---

Here’s the deal, the higher the risk of intervention, the higher evidence based standard required (more invasive = more data /RCT)

I would also add high cost = more evidence

The lower the risk of intervention, the lower the evidence based standard (think flossing)

Ivermectin checks all the boxes for broad use except the fact that there is not as much of a profit margin for big pharma (who skews the literature with RCTs it funds and policy)

quote:

---

horse medicine.

---

I used to think we disagree but you are smart.

Then I read this.

quote:

---

tiny sample sizes

---

So, like what was used to give Emergency Use Authorization to the three “vaccines”?

quote:

---

As I've posted twice already:

There is little evidence to suggest that Ivermectin does anything.

---

From your link:

quote:

---

Conclusions
Ivermectin is safe in patients with SARS-CoV-2, reducing symptomatology and the SARS-CoV-2 viral load. This antiviral effect appears to depend on the dose used, and if confirmed in future studies, it suggests that ivermectin may be a useful adjuvant to the SOC treatment in patients with mild COVID-19 symptoms.

---

Oh, and that was JUST Ivermectin, NOT used in conjunction with zinc and Doxycycline.

quote:

---

ETA: Only side effect has been about a 12 inch increase in penis length.

---

Congratulations on your new 11 inch penis

Can you possibly be any more ignorant with your posting. Sheesh

quote:

---

From my own personal covid experience: 1st covid go round (Christmas holidays 2020) - took ivermectin, hcq, zpack. Started day 5 symptomatic. Did not get relief from covid. Was 12 days under the weather with covid. Severe fatigue along with breathing issues. Fever free after 10 days symptomatic. Was a pretty tough illness. Ivermectin, hcq & zpack did not give immediate relief but may have prevented covid from being worse (absolutely no way to prove that though). I have not taken the experimental jab and will not. Covid Round 2 (last week) - A week ago Sunday woke up to covid round 2. Same symptoms - severe fatigue and fever 100 - 102. Started ivermectin, hacq, zpack and zinc on day 2 symptomatic this time. Big difference. Was fever free and symptom free 4 days from onset. No doubt it was taking the meds as soon as covid onset. I feel totally fine now. (Round 1 took about 1 month to get back to 100%). Could round 2 not have been as rough as round 1 because of the built-in antibodies. Possibly. But, there is no doubt I got it again and the early delivery of ivermectin, hcq, zpack definitely made a difference.

---

You mention zinc in round 2 and not round 1. Zinc makes a big difference. Without zinc the Ivermectin or Hydroxy can’t enter the cells. The zinc builds a pathway. This is what my wife who has been a nurse for decades told me. We both had Covid a few weeks ago. We took Ivermectin, Hydroxy, Zinc, zpack, Vitamins C and D, aspirin, melatonin. Basically the FLCCC Protocol. It kicked Covid’s butt.

quote:

---

I took a Z-pack, montelukast, and an elderberry supplement. Does that also qualify as evidence for what works to beat a Covid infection?

---

Actually, yes, considering I took the same thing (minus the elderberry) when I had it, before we knew what coronavirus was.