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re: WSJ: Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug? Ivermectin
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Too bad for you, it doesn't cure SOY sickness.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:25 pm to bizeagle
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Ivermectin is safe in patients with SARS-CoV-2, reducing symptomatology and the SARS-CoV-2 viral load. This antiviral effect appears to depend on the dose used, and if confirmed in future studies, it suggests that ivermectin may be a useful adjuvant to the SOC treatment in patients with mild COVID-19 symptoms."
Right, but then look at the data. Ivermectin is doing next to nothing when compared directly with standard of care. If this were truly effective, you typically see an order of magnitude difference between the placebo and medicated groups.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:25 pm to mouton
No money in that drug. Hopefully everyone is aware of the profits being made off vaccines and other drugs like remdesevir. This is not a greater good endeavor.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:25 pm to Bmath
Here's the link from the group of doctor's who believe that ivermectin is very effective, along with lots of data:
Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance
Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:29 pm to Bmath
Doctors with "horse sense" use drugs off-label sometimes. If it was too late to vaccinate, wouldn't a person want this alternative if their doctor thinks it's safe for them?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:31 pm to tom1987
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along with lots of data
And at least one of the papers from the metadata analysis they heavily cite, was pulled because the author was caught fudging their data.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I trust her.
But no one believes you, so there's that little wrinkle.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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horse medicine.
Please dispute the approximately 60 peer reviewed studies that prove the use of Ivermectin is effective at treating Covid. Otherwise, you are no better than the conspiracy theory pushers you rail against daily.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:37 pm to Bmath
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As I've posted twice already:
There is little evidence to suggest that Ivermectin does anything.
From my own personal covid experience:
1st covid go round (Christmas holidays 2020) - took ivermectin, hcq, zpack. Started day 5 symptomatic. Did not get relief from covid. Was 12 days under the weather with covid. Severe fatigue along with breathing issues. Fever free after 10 days symptomatic. Was a pretty tough illness. Ivermectin, hcq & zpack did not give immediate relief but may have prevented covid from being worse (absolutely no way to prove that though).
I have not taken the experimental jab and will not.
Covid Round 2 (last week) - A week ago Sunday woke up to covid round 2. Same symptoms - severe fatigue and fever 100 - 102. Started ivermectin, hacq, zpack and zinc on day 2 symptomatic this time. Big difference. Was fever free and symptom free 4 days from onset. No doubt it was taking the meds as soon as covid onset. I feel totally fine now. (Round 1 took about 1 month to get back to 100%).
Could round 2 not have been as rough as round 1 because of the built-in antibodies. Possibly. But, there is no doubt I got it again and the early delivery of ivermectin, hcq, zpack definitely made a difference.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:37 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Please dispute the approximately 60 peer reviewed studies that prove the use of Ivermectin is effective at treating Covid. Otherwise, you are no better than the conspiracy theory pushers you rail against daily.
I've been reading these papers. Most have tiny sample sizes, have very rudimentary statistics, do not control for confounding factors, and present conclusions that aren't much better than anecdotal evidence.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
God, you’ve become retarded. You’ve lost your fricking mind.
Experimental genetic vaccines = good
Commonly used, safe antiviral = bad
Experimental genetic vaccines = good
Commonly used, safe antiviral = bad
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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My friend works for one of the vaccine developers and she insists ivermectin is snake oil for covid.
Read this again and tell me if you can see the problem.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:40 pm to Vacherie Saint
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My friend works for one of the vaccine developers and she insists ivermectin is snake oil for covid.
Read this again and tell me if you can see the problem.
Believe me, he can't.
He also doesn't have a friend "working for one of the vax developers".
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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My friend works for one of the vaccine developers and she insists ivermectin is snake oil for covid.
I trust her.
Is this supposed to be a joke? This is like going to the Apple store and asking them how great Android phones are.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You are leftrat snake oil. Did you get the jab? Want to know if you will be one of it's long term victims.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:51 pm to Bmath
The information provided by the original poster indicates:
"Ivermectin fights 21 viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, the cause of Covid-19. A single dose reduced the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 in cells by 99.8% in 24 hours and 99.98% in 48 hours, according to a June 2020 study published in the journal Antiviral Research."
I guess it depends on what research results you're reading.
Also, you cant deny that the CDC trys to debunk every drug that purports positive results against Covid; Hydroxy, Remdesivir, Ivermectin, etc. and pushes the vaccination that doesn't even have final approval.
It's easy to see why a huge part of America does not trust the Government. Like the FBI, I don't trust the CDC or any Government run institution at the moment.
I would sooner take the Ivermectin and the other approved drugs mentioned before getting jabbed because the CDC and Government expect me to trust them. Remember, Fauchi is the one who got this whole pandemic going in the first place with his funding of the research at the virology lab in Wuhan which released it into the public.
"Ivermectin fights 21 viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, the cause of Covid-19. A single dose reduced the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 in cells by 99.8% in 24 hours and 99.98% in 48 hours, according to a June 2020 study published in the journal Antiviral Research."
I guess it depends on what research results you're reading.
Also, you cant deny that the CDC trys to debunk every drug that purports positive results against Covid; Hydroxy, Remdesivir, Ivermectin, etc. and pushes the vaccination that doesn't even have final approval.
It's easy to see why a huge part of America does not trust the Government. Like the FBI, I don't trust the CDC or any Government run institution at the moment.
I would sooner take the Ivermectin and the other approved drugs mentioned before getting jabbed because the CDC and Government expect me to trust them. Remember, Fauchi is the one who got this whole pandemic going in the first place with his funding of the research at the virology lab in Wuhan which released it into the public.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:52 pm to Bmath
India has been using Ivermectin very successfully. France used Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin very successfully. Is there some reason you want big pharma to get richer?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:57 pm to BaldEagleHey
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Could round 2 not have been as rough as round 1 because of the built-in antibodies. Possibly.
And this do not compute.
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there is no doubt I got it again and the early delivery of ivermectin, hcq, zpack definitely made a difference.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:57 pm to BillRose
This is what science has become. They can cite their own research to support their biases. But so can we.
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