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WSJ: disabled Americans are facing long waiting lists because able bodied hogging Medicaid
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:16 pm
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Medicaid was created to help people like my son. He is 17, has severe autism and epilepsy, and needs constant attention. Yet thanks to ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion, he is stuck on a multiyear waiting list for in-home care because able-bodied adults are competing for the same resources. Republicans in the Senate can help states fix this by strengthening the Medicaid work requirements in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act they’re about to pass.
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ObamaCare gave states a financial incentive to treat able-bodied adults better than the disabled. The federal government gives states $9 for every $1 they spend on able-bodied adults, but only $1.33 for every dollar spent on children, people with disabilities, pregnant women and seniors. Drawn by the promise of so much federal money, Arkansas’s Democratic governor expanded Medicaid in 2013. The program now covers more than 230,000 able-bodied adults.
Because able-bodied adults bring so much money, Arkansas makes them a priority. We applied for in-home care in 2023, but state officials said it would take 10 years. Democrats are doing everything they can to keep my son on the wait list. They’re trying to frighten Republicans into abandoning work requirements by claiming they’re ineffective, unnecessary and cruel—none of which is true.
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In 2018 the Trump administration gave Arkansas a waiver that let it require able-bodied adults without children to work part time as a condition of receiving Medicaid benefits. A federal judge struck down the waiver on procedural grounds 10 months after the policy began to phase in. Yet the work requirement already had strong results.
In less than a year, nearly 18,000 able-bodied adults increased their incomes enough to get off Medicaid.
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The Senate could go even further, ending the Medicaid funding formula that encourages states to sign up able-bodied adults at the expense of people with disabilities. But the work requirement is the bare minimum of what Republicans should pass. Able-bodied adults have blocked my son from care for too long.
What could possibly justify the current setup where states get 90% matching rates for able bodied adults, but only 50% matching rates for truly needy people?
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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able bodied hogging Medicaid
I was told this was LiTeRaLLy uNpOssIbLe
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
With autism rates skyrocketing we are going to have a health care meltdown caring for all these kids as they age.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
But DOGE is the debil!!111!!
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Medicaid was created to help people like my son. He is 17, has severe autism and epilepsy, and needs constant attention. Yet thanks to ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion, he is stuck on a multiyear waiting list for in-home care because able-bodied adults are competing for the same resources.
This is inaccurate on several levels.
Medicaid eligibility is primarily income dependent. It is for poor people. There is a disability waiver that waives the income requirement for persons with disabilities. However, the program was not created for the disability waiver program.
Obamacare and Medicaid expansion did not create waiting lists for disability waiver— it shortened them. Prior to Obamacare and Medicaid expansion, the waiting list in Louisiana for Medicaid disability waiver was like nine years. After Obamacare the waiting list disappeared. The additional funds did the exact opposite of OP’s quote.
Since Medicaid is income dependent, there are a lot of poor able-bodied people who get it. For those people the government can impose work requirements if the decide to do so. But as long as the federal block grants continue, able bodied recipients won’t displace the waiver population.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:55 pm to TBoy
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The additional funds did the exact opposite of OP’s quote.
The WSJ reporting has turned to shite. Everything that comes out of that Rag at this point is usually incorrect Propaganda so if what your claiming is true it wouldn't suprise me
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Disabled people qualify for medicare if they are actually disabled.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 3:08 pm to SammyTiger
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Disabled people qualify for medicare if they are actually disabled.
Was just about to post exactly this. If you have both medicaid tends to become secondary (only pays if medicare doesn't).
Posted on 6/9/25 at 3:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Disabled people qualify for medicare if they are actually disabled.
The Medicaid disability waiver provides for services that are not provided for by Medicare, such as the wages for an attendant to provide for activities of daily living for those who can't care for themselves.
An interesting feature of the Medicaid disability waiver is that it is a secondary payer if the disabled person has private insurance through the insurance marketplace or on a family policy, or relies on Medicare. For a disabled child whose parents have an employment provided family policy through Blue Cross , Blue Cross is the primary and Medicaid is secondary. That way the waiver program only picks up what primary insurance does not pay. That feature saves the public a fortune. It's a good program.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The number of people on disability has gone up nearly 50% since Obamacare passed.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 3:32 pm to TBoy
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Medicaid eligibility is primarily income dependent. It is for poor people.
This is simply not the case anymore. Medicaid is the fastest growing program in America (growing faster than Medicare even). Even since 2019, the program is spending twice as much as it used to, despite no increase in the amount of poor people in America.
States are actively trying to expand eligibility every fiscal year. This wouldn’t be a problem per se if the massive new costs were being funded by new taxes and whatnot, but the massive expansion is basically a giant unfunded endeavor.
States have figured out how to put the entire cost on the Feds, which was never the intent of the program.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 3:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Can anyone post a archived version of this article? I'd like to read it in full, but don't want to sign up or have to give them money.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 4:01 pm to TBoy
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Prior to Obamacare and Medicaid expansion, the waiting list in Louisiana for Medicaid disability waiver was like nine years. After Obamacare the waiting list disappeared.
So the able-bodied could sign up immediately.
The Federal government has been paying the foot soldiers of the left (aka…the mentally ill), just not in the manner that most think.
There is a veritable army of able-bodied people on Medicaid, Welfare, Food Stamps, and Social Security…all while residing in Section 8 / Public Housing.
Be honest T, which of the above rare you personally taking advantage of?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 4:10 pm to jimmy the leg
In 2004 Medicaid denied my wife disability status. She had polio and no muscle function in either leg. Denial based on she was to disabled to work 8 quarters, the minimum contribution input. to medicare/social security
go figure
go figure
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:34 pm to jimmy the leg
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Be honest T, which of the above rare you personally taking advantage of?
Actually, I know about this because twenty three years ago my oldest son was born a functional quadriplegic. We were on the waiting list for waiver services for more than eight years because we didn’t meet the financial eligibility criteria. As a result, we had to private pay for care attendants for those years. We finally got off the waiting list before Medicaid expansion. After Louisiana joined the Medicaid expansion, there was no more waiting list.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I worked in the Cobb County DA’s office the summer after my first year of law school.
Every Wednesday I accompanied an ADA to court. Wednesday was the day we handled all defendants who were not paying child support.
Most all of these fricks were on Disability and Medicaid and they were young, able bodied, and healthy to work. They were just lazy fricks that figured out how to leech off and game the system. The stories were absurd. “Oh I have a bad back.” “Oh I have anxiety.” “Oh I shot myself in the foot.” “Oh I have carpal tunnel.” “Oh I have some phobia.”
I still remember one interaction…
“Do you work?”
“No sir!”
“Why the hell not?”
“I’m 51% disabled sir!”
There are millions upon millions of people that could work but don’t work that are leaching off Social Security through Disability.
Every Wednesday I accompanied an ADA to court. Wednesday was the day we handled all defendants who were not paying child support.
Most all of these fricks were on Disability and Medicaid and they were young, able bodied, and healthy to work. They were just lazy fricks that figured out how to leech off and game the system. The stories were absurd. “Oh I have a bad back.” “Oh I have anxiety.” “Oh I shot myself in the foot.” “Oh I have carpal tunnel.” “Oh I have some phobia.”
I still remember one interaction…
“Do you work?”
“No sir!”
“Why the hell not?”
“I’m 51% disabled sir!”
There are millions upon millions of people that could work but don’t work that are leaching off Social Security through Disability.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:19 pm to TBoy
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Medicaid eligibility is primarily income dependent. It is for poor people. There is a disability waiver that waives the income requirement for persons with disabilities. However, the program was not created for the disability waiver program.
You don’t know anything as usual. You just shite out words in the normal order of a sentence as if it has meaning. And it doesn’t. Shut up, idiot.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:07 pm to TBoy
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I know about this because twenty three years ago my oldest son was born a functional quadriplegic. We were on the waiting list for waiver services for more than eight years because we didn’t meet the financial eligibility criteria. As a result, we had to private pay for care attendants for those years. We finally got off the waiting list before Medicaid expansion. After Louisiana joined the Medicaid expansion, there was no more waiting list.
Good for you and your son (sincerely). But he isn’t able-bodied. He should have been receiving benefits based on his circumstances. I’m glad that he is. However, the pendulum swinging too far in the wrong direction is not a good thing.
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