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re: WSJ: David Pecker gave evidence of Trump's knowledge of payoffs
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:48 am to Lg
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:48 am to Lg
quote:
Please show me the portion in the 22 page plea agreement where it says that,specifically. I read it three times yesterday and couldn't find it.
It was during his verbal plea:
In his plea hearing, Cohen never said Trump's name, as a court transcripts shows, but Cohen did tell the judge he worked -- quote -- "in coordination with and at the direction of the candidate" when he arranged a couple of six-figure payments to keep two women quiet about their alleged affairs with Trump before he became president.
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:48 am to tigerinDC09
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So even after the prosecution and the judge have seen the concrete evidence which forced Cohen to plea, you still want to say that said evidence doesn't exist?
Have you seen it? I’m sorry...but until I see a smoking gun, I don’t take other people’s word for it. You do realize that violating campaign finance laws only results in a fine, right? So this smoking gun you’re jacking off over it’s possible existence will only result in trump writing a check...odd shite to get excited over.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:50 am to tigerinDC09
What part of that statute was violated and how was it violated?
How was this violated?
quote:
individual contributions to any presidential candidate, including expenditures coordinated with a candidate or his political committee, were limited to $2,700 per election,
How was this violated?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:50 am to AuburnTigers
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of course Trump knew about the payments. They were coming out of his own pocket
It's not like Trump pulled out his wallet and cut a check from the resolute desk. Reimbursement came from payment of invoices for legal services submitted by Cohen to the Trump real estate company.
It's actually likely that he was completely unaware of the payments when they happened. It was a relatively small amount, and he had given up his day to day operations by the time the invoices were paid.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:50 am to Tigerdev
Fair enough 
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:51 am to tigerinDC09
quote:
Here are the crimes you are asking about:
You should send this to Alan Dershowitz:
quote:
I have been teaching and practicing criminal law for more than a half century, and yet, I have to acknowledge that I am having difficulty understanding the laws as they relate to the allegations made by Cohen against President Trump.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:51 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
I guess when professional federal prosecutors fail to convict Trump of these crimes, you can comfort yourself on how much better a legal scholar and prosecutor you would have been.
Individual-1 is now President and likely can't be indicted while in office.
The true test is if Pecker and others on Trump campaign involved in this conspiracy are indicted.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:51 am to tigerinDC09
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is an unindicted co-conspirator in 2 federal felonies.
There's that term again. Is this part of the new talking points IRT Cohen's payment to a couple of whores. Was he named an "unindicted co-conspirator" by the prosecutor, or was this term foisted upon him by the media and democrat blow-hards.
Simply calling somebody this doesn't mean it's true.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:52 am to GRTiger
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Reimbursement came from payment of invoices for legal services submitted by Cohen to the Trump real estate company.
Think about why they jumped thru all of these hoops to get Cohen repaid. Why would they do this if they believe all of this was legit?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:54 am to tigerinDC09
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Individual-1 is now President and likely can't be indicted while in office.
He won’t be indicted for this after he leaves office, either. Mainly because it wasn’t a crime.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:54 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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There's that term again. Is this part of the new talking points IRT Cohen's payment to a couple of whores. Was he named an "unindicted co-conspirator" by the prosecutor, or was this term foisted upon him by the media and democrat blow-hards. Simply calling somebody this doesn't mean it's true
Individual-1 took place in the conspiracy as admitted to by Cohen and accepted by the court. The court therefore accepts as fact that Individual-1 (President Trump) participated in a criminal conspiracy.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:55 am to tigerinDC09
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Why would they do this if they believe all of this was legit?
“Why” doesn’t matter.
There’s no underlying crime.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:55 am to tigerinDC09
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The court therefore accepts as fact that Individual-1 (President Trump) participated in a criminal conspiracy.
Now you’re just embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:56 am to tigerinDC09
quote:Solid source you've got there!
National Enquirer,
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:57 am to the808bass
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He won’t be indicted for this after he leaves office, either. Mainly because it wasn’t a crime.
Again, I think the bigger short-term test of this theory is of Pecker and anyone else participating in these payoffs.
If Pecker, Weissleberg (sp?) and others involved plea or are charged, then yes citizen Trump would have exposure.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:58 am to tigerinDC09
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They also likely have evidence that Trump directed it, because that is what Cohen admitted.
Trump’s own lawyers admitted to in in a letter to the court.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:58 am to tigerinDC09
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COHEN caused and made the payments described herein in order to influence the 2016 presidential election. In so doing, he coordinated with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. As a result of the payments solicited and made by COHEN, neither Woman-1 nor Woman-2 spoke to the press prior to the election.
That's how it is a crime.
except none of that is illegal
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:59 am to tigerinDC09
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They also have corroborating evidence that the crime was committed and that Trump knew about it.
Can you please point us to the statute the specifically says that paying someone not to talk about an affair is a crime? You fricking retards are so far gone from reality that you are actually convinced that it is.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:59 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Trump’s own lawyers admitted to in in a letter to the court.
Trump’s lawyers admitted to a crime in a letter to the court?
Oh. Wait. It wasn’t a crime.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 7:59 am to tigerinDC09
Bless your heart...
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