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re: Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:02 pm to tigeraddict
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:02 pm to tigeraddict
“Because when Z finally gets on board and Putin refuses to accept a peace deal then it will all be on Putin.”
I have not understood Trump’s almost obsequious approach to Putin while hammering Z at every turn despite Putin being the aggressor. However, your post captures what I hope is going on, ie, that Trump has a plan to pivot to taking a tough stance with Putin at some point to get to a deal. If he can get it done without giving Putin the store, I will happily stuff my face with crow over how he has handled the Russian invasion thus far.
I have not understood Trump’s almost obsequious approach to Putin while hammering Z at every turn despite Putin being the aggressor. However, your post captures what I hope is going on, ie, that Trump has a plan to pivot to taking a tough stance with Putin at some point to get to a deal. If he can get it done without giving Putin the store, I will happily stuff my face with crow over how he has handled the Russian invasion thus far.
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:03 pm to Feelthebarn
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How much money has putin asked us for, you stupid bastard?
This is why I’ve kept coming back to the Poliboard for over a decade.
Refreshing.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:04 pm to TackySweater
quote:Putin isn’t the one with the American taxpayer credit card. This isn’t rocket science.
Why can’t he tell Putin to just go back home and let Ukraine be Ukraine?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:06 pm to TackySweater
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What am I missing?
We are not giving Russia their pre war GDP to fight a way they can’t win. We are doing so for Ukraine.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:22 pm to TackySweater
You know why…
Putin has photos
Putin has photos
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:26 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Putin will get mostly what he wants. Trump, Ukraine, or Europe have no leverage to push Putin to accept any conditions he doesn’t want too. If Putin doesn’t get everything he wants he will just continue to throw troops into the meat grinder and turn this into a true war of attrition. And Russia has the manpower to outlast Ukraine.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:27 pm to LARancher1991
Why is DU so concerned that we get the midget back on the gravy train yesterday?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:28 pm to TackySweater
Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?
because Putin don't owe us ~350 billion dollars..this asswipe literally owes us a frickton of money
because Putin don't owe us ~350 billion dollars..this asswipe literally owes us a frickton of money
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:31 pm to TackySweater
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What am I missing?
Years of trump praising dictators and talking about how great they are...
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:39 pm to TackySweater
Pyrrhic victory with western support is the best possible outcome for Ukraine.
Killing off a generation of males and having your (((entire))) homeland craterized while civilians flee is highly undesirable. They are ruthlessly conscripting and begging for money, it’s over. Thank goodness Russia is only looking to reclaim a relatively small and very Russian area of Ukraine.
A true leader knows when a surrender is beneficial in warfare, a politician carrying on as a matter of pride and legacy is abhorrent. Zelenskyy needs to be real here.
Killing off a generation of males and having your (((entire))) homeland craterized while civilians flee is highly undesirable. They are ruthlessly conscripting and begging for money, it’s over. Thank goodness Russia is only looking to reclaim a relatively small and very Russian area of Ukraine.
A true leader knows when a surrender is beneficial in warfare, a politician carrying on as a matter of pride and legacy is abhorrent. Zelenskyy needs to be real here.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:42 pm to TackySweater
It’s going to be fun watching y’all cry for 4 years. I know you will be sad with less wars.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:12 pm to TackySweater
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What am I missing
Reality. You're missing reality. It's a common problem with liberals. You guys equate recognizing reality with being pro Putin. But not a single rational human being plans to commit to All Out war with Russia. And Ukraine lacks the ability to militarily and the war no matter how much Aid we give them.
You can dislike reality all you like but that doesn't change what reality is. We aren't going to find Ukraine forever. And Ukraine is incapable of bringing them into the war. What hard ball with Putin exactly would you like? It isn't as if Joe Biden took a soft approach and you see how that worked out.
Sometimes in War you lose. It might suck but it is reality
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:12 pm to TackySweater
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He’s basically yelling Z that he has to just concede defeat and salvage what’s left.
Why can’t he tell Putin to just go back home and let Ukraine be Ukraine?
What am I missing?
Weve had the same exact thread like 10 times now. I guess Soros has activated his bot army again
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:17 pm to Riverside
Russia does the same negotiating tactic as the old Soviet Union, Democrats and ex-wives....
"What is mine is mine, what is yours is negotiable".
"What is mine is mine, what is yours is negotiable".
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:19 pm to TackySweater
Trump is a pu$$y who is obviously scared of Putin.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:20 pm to heymama
You can type out pussy on this website, fig.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:21 pm to heymama
Got a rational argument for that or is it that Trump hurt your feelings and he’s a big meanie
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:22 pm to TackySweater
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But why did he start it in the first place?
Why were US officials in a foreign country watching over a color revolution like they were in a box at a sporting event?
What are we doing there in the first place?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:43 pm to dgnx6
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Why were US officials in a foreign country watching over a color revolution like they were in a box at a sporting event? What are we doing there in the first place?
Because the US and Russia have never been allies. That’s why NATO was created (USSR).
This whole “whataboutism” argument can go on forever, and as far back as you can count.
So let’s not pretend it begins in Ukraine.
What have CIA, KGB, MI6, Mossad been doing all over the world for decades?
Trump hired Paul Manafort for God’s sake. After his involvement in Ukranian politics on behalf of Russian puppets.
This is a complete 180 for US diplomacy. Siding with Russia over the US intelligence community, and making new alliances with authoritarian dictators is new.
Turning your back on democracies fighting for freedom because the dictators have a bigger army is what is different now. And this began under Trump.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:47 pm to AGGIES
Trump, Ukraine, or Europe have no leverage on Putin in this war. What do you suggest they do? There is nothing that gives Ukraine any advantage in this negotiation. If Ukraine had some advantage then I’d say ok let’s play hard ball but they don’t not a one.
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