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re: Why is it that we do not have a law against MSM pushing propaganda

Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13953 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:40 pm to
Because they would use that law as justification to put people telling the truth in prison under the guise that they were spreading propaganda.

Here's a tip. If your solution results in less speech and not more speech you have not solved the problem. You have created a bigger problem.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4437 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:44 pm to

Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15748 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:21 pm to
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This would be the first executive order I would sign in office.


So you'd try to use an EO to overturn the First Amendment?

Do yourself a favor and send it straight to SCOTUS when you sign it.
Posted by Elon Musketeer
Member since Feb 2023
54 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:26 pm to
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The whole first amendment thing


I get it. Really do. But the first will eventually shut it all down if you only have democrats winning elections.
It's going to be very bad if the Democrats are allowed to continue.

Just give it all up if you cannot win an election due to MSM? It's where this is currently going.

You have to remember Obama signed a H.R. bill that allowed the MSM to go in this direction. It will wreck this country.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:31 pm to
The speech you must protect is that which you hate the most.

How about we educate women and soy boys not to eat garbage information?
Posted by Elon Musketeer
Member since Feb 2023
54 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:33 pm to
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How about we educate women and soy boys not to eat garbage information?


Well you cannot have democrats leading this idea. They want the opposite.

I agree with you.

You'll never get a majority of women to agree.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9340 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:13 pm to
In 2012 Obama repealed the Smith Mundt act that made it illegal for US media to use propaganda against its citizens. Now we get force fed a shite sandwich of propaganda daily.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36222 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:43 am to
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It's easy. If you are using federally controlled airways (over the air stations ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS), your news programs must be neutral.


That’s a fair point about O’Donnell, but even then it wouldn’t be considered propaganda. Trump went after the media pretty hard so I imagine it’s hard for the ones that don’t like him to keep the disdain out of their voice.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27174 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:45 am to
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law against MSM pushing propaganda


While they have apparently participated in censorship, I really do not like the idea of our government deciding what does and does not get published...
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8160 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:29 am to
First Amendment and all
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19364 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:38 am to
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Didn't Obama sign into law in a H.R. to allow the media to do what the hell they want to do?


Yes he did. Media outlets no longer have any responsibility to publish truth. People like to believe they never did, but they did.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Obama signed the law which banned MSM propaganda.


Typical leftist lowlife lying BS! ESAD! Lying POS! Obama did the opposite.

Obama signs amendment to bill allowing government propaganda to be broadcast domestically

Government "made" news broadcast to Americans
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 1:58 pm to
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So you'd try to use an EO to overturn the First Amendment?

Do yourself a favor and send it straight to SCOTUS when you sign it.


The government has a 1st amendment right to lie to us? Are you sukking Putins dick? Xi? Biden? Pretty sure the 1st amendment is for us not government.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

quote:
Didn't Obama sign into law in a H.R. to allow the media to do what the hell they want to do?



Yes he did. Media outlets no longer have any responsibility to publish truth. People like to believe they never did, but they did.


More importantly he allowed the government to give propaganda to the MSM for publication. Hence the regime media.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:04 pm to
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In 2012 Obama repealed the Smith Mundt act that made it illegal for US media to use propaganda against its citizens. Now we get force fed a shite sandwich of propaganda daily.


No what his plan was and is allows government to publish propaganda through MSM. Ever wonder why many MSM outlets often use the exact same phrases?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112537 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Because who gets to decide what is propaganda?


Before that...who gets to decide what is MSM?

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25024 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:15 pm to
I'm not sure why a politician can't sue for liable in situations like this.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1470 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:43 pm to
Should I refer you to this HIGHLY ACCURATE media bias chart. As you can CLEARLY see - PBS, ABC, NPR, BBC New York Times only skew SLIGHTLY LEFT. AP is right there in the middle, a long with the Hill. There is clearly NO PROPAGANDA.

Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:08 pm to
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Before that...who gets to decide what is MSM?


You can safely say that regime media that publish government generated propaganda are these. ABC, NBC,CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR and many smaller entities like Forbes, the Atlantic, Business Insider you add to the list.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:09 pm to
Ha ha ha ha you truly are easily fooled. Oh sarcasm. Are we to characterize government propaganda left to right or WEF down?
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