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re: Why is it that we do not have a law against MSM pushing propaganda

Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19594 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:17 pm to
Proven fraud is not free speech.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
220 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:21 pm to
I’m a strong proponent of free speech, I believe the SCOTUS case today is a great case and very important. I hope the court rules in favor of the states and strengthens the first amendment!

Having said that, the MSM willfully lie, that is not protected speech, “yelling fire in a theater” has been ruled unconstitutional many times; I believe that is what the OP is referring to. It’s a checks and balances for the people with the most influence, who reach hundreds of millions of homes every day. Some accountability, with strong consequences, would be a good thing. None of this “multiple sources close to the situation have confirmed” and then they make some shite up and state a lie. That’s very different then free speech, as the OP stated, propaganda!!
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
1937 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:23 pm to
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Didn't Obama sign into law in a H.R. to allow the media to do what the hell they want to do?


I saw that on a meme but can’t figure out how a defense bill has anything to do with the media. I’m not saying I have a perfect understanding, but the meme looked trashy and Q’Anon anyway.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
220 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:31 pm to
I disagree. News is in competition to be first, to break the story; that is what we have become accustomed to. As opposed to being factually correct, to being accurate; the anchors can switch it up and announce we are investigating “this story, coming soon, tune in tomorrow” etc! Just like every other industry, if we malpractice, we lose our ability to perform that job!

Having said that, seeing what Biden is doing, the last thing I want is more government intervention and control. However, the lies are out of control!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46187 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:37 pm to
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and if they do, then it would be considered as treason towards our country. Push the law to where you lock up the big MSM anchors and CEO's. This would be the first executive order I would sign in office.


Because the MSM is a quasi bureaucracy of the US Bureaucratic State.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13953 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:17 pm to
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In 2012 Obama repealed the Smith Mundt act that made it illegal for US media to use propaganda against its citizens. Now we get force fed a shite sandwich of propaganda daily.


The president does not have that power. Congress can pass for an act of Congress repealling a previous law and the President can sign that act but the president does not have the power to repeal laws made by Congress, only Congress has that power.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13953 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:23 pm to


There are more jokes in this chart than there are in Airplane! but the biggest one is rating Teen Vogue as being more reliable than The Federalist.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63591 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:26 pm to
Just keep believing that the internet fever dream is the real truth. See how that works out for you.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9201 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:35 pm to
Thank you for the comments from the clown section.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5924 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:39 pm to
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The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, contained within the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013, eased some restrictions so that media produced by the U.S. Agency for Global Media and intended for foreign audiences could be distributed domestically upon request, according to its text. Prior to its passage, the content was banned from being disseminated in America.

The act did not make it legal for the independent, privately-owned media organizations, where most Americans get their news, to “purposely lie,” as the post inaccurately suggests.


Surley you can see what they did here in this "fact check".
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9340 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:46 am to
88Wildcat
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The president does not have that power. Congress can pass for an act of Congress repealling a previous law and the President can sign that act but the president does not have the power to repeal laws made by Congress, only Congress has that power.


My apologies. What actually occurred was the Smith Mundt modernization act of 2012 signed by Obama.

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Introduced in House (05/10/2012)
Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 - Amends the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 to authorize the Secretary of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to provide for the preparation and dissemination of information intended for foreign audiences abroad about the United States, including about its people, its history, and the federal government's policies, through press, publications, radio, motion pictures, the Internet, and other information media, including social media, and through information centers and instructors. (Under current law such authority is restricted to information disseminated abroad, with a limited domestic exception.)

Authorizes the Secretary and the Board to make available in the United States motion pictures, films, video, audio, and other materials prepared for dissemination abroad or disseminated abroad pursuant to such Act, the United States International Broadcasting Act of 1994, the Radio Broadcasting to Cuba Act, or the Television Broadcasting to Cuba Act.

Amends the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1986 and 1987 to prohibit funds for the Department of State or the Board from being used to influence public opinion or propagandizing in the United States. (Under current law such provision applies to the United States Information Agency [USIA].)

Applies such prohibition only to programs carried out pursuant to the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948, the United States International Broadcasting Act of 1994, the Radio Broadcasting to Cuba Act, and the Television Broadcasting to Cuba Act.

States that such provision shall: (1) not prohibit the Department or the Board from providing information about its operations, policies, programs, or program material, or making such information available to members of the media, public, or Congress; (2) not be construed to prohibit the Department from engaging in any medium of information on a presumption that a U.S. domestic audience may be exposed to program material; and (3) apply only to the Department and the Board and to no other federal department or agency.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:44 pm to
Having lived in many foreign countries on military bases I am surprised how few Americans know the scope of American propaganda overseas. CNN is the worlds number one purveyor of foreign propaganda, it is to this day. What the "modernization" act did was allow the same propaganda to be disseminated here.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:37 pm to
For many years the US government published propaganda all over the world through CNN. In fact the CIA has a huge hand in it still and CNN is still publishing propaganda all over the world. The military uses propaganda as a weapon overseas just as our government does here domestically.
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