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Why I'm a communist -- and why you should be too
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:51 pm
https://qz.com/965740/why-im-a-communist-and-why-you-should-be-too/
The next to last paragraph is the money shot where he admits what communists and socialists don't like to actually talk about (that their utopia is going to require some totalitarian enforcement):
The next to last paragraph is the money shot where he admits what communists and socialists don't like to actually talk about (that their utopia is going to require some totalitarian enforcement):
quote:
We don’t know what that communist future will look like. We know that our age of automation has created the possibility of free time. We know that we have collectively created the means to sustain all on this planet. But, we also know that we have built this abundance at the cost of environmental devastation. Both climate change and the irrevocable fact of nuclear weapons reduce the original communist hope for collective management of everything; these totalizing threats demands a certain level of totalitarian management. It is my view that an honest communist can now no longer say that the state can be done away with entirely—these true threats require a handful of true bureaucrats to manage them.
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:52 pm to Slippy
I thought this was the title of the next Star Wars movie
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:53 pm to Slippy
It'll work this time...
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:56 pm to Slippy
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the original communist hope for collective management of everything
That part should say it all.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:58 pm to Slippy
Because the first 100,000,000 dead just doesn’t seem like enough ...?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:59 pm to Slippy
Nice to see some honesty from the prog filth experience erythromycin once in a while I guess
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:59 pm to Slippy
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Communism is a system of social organization that has never been truly tried and, these days, never truly explained.
ahhh yes, the classic, "That wasn't real communism. If done right it would truly work this time." disclaimer.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:02 pm to swamie
Bernie Sanders voters....
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:04 pm to Slippy
ain't interested in being a commie.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:05 pm to Slippy
My bad man. I didn't even know you were leaning in that direction.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:11 pm to swamie
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ahhh yes, the classic, "That wasn't real communism. If done right it would truly work this time." disclaimer.
I know right? But this time, "I" will be in charge, and "I"'m a better person than Stalin or Mao, so when "I" get ultimate power "I" won't kill millions of people.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 pm to swamie
What's even better is that a bunch of soy boy, feminists think they'd run this hypothetical communist government. Newsflash, people
like that do not maintain power or keep people in line. This government they masterbate to would be run by a bunch of white males.
like that do not maintain power or keep people in line. This government they masterbate to would be run by a bunch of white males.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 pm to Slippy
Absolute communism would never work out here because of our free market and therefore the capitalist influence. Capitalism, Socialism, Nationalism, and Communism can operate cohesively. After all, we've got every flavor here and have for some time.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:26 pm to swamie
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ahhh yes, the classic, "That wasn't real communism. If done right it would truly work this time." disclaimer.
Yep. The "No True Scotsman" Fallacy. Really sad how much history is being ignored by the author.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:27 pm to TigerNutwhack
quote:
I know right? But this time, "I" will be in charge, and "I"'m a better person than Stalin or Mao, so when "I" get ultimate power "I" won't kill millions of people.
Even if that were true (It's not), the problem comes when "you" aren't in charge anymore.
Not disagreeing with you, just adding on.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:28 pm to Slippy
The only thing I want to know is this: if the State owns everything, who gets to live in all the nice lake and beach and ski houses across the country, and who gets to live the the 1000 sqft apartments? Seems to me like there will be winners and losers just based on that. There’s a lot of kickass stuff in this country and around the world, are they wanting to turn all this into some sort of time share?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:38 pm to jaybird07
Dead people always seem to vote in lock step with the communists, they really have no choice when they die....So, it’s pretty much Utopia for the rest of the living, until they have to eat...
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:39 pm to jptiger2009
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Capitalism, Socialism, Nationalism, and Communism can operate cohesively. After all, we've got every flavor here and have for some time.
Capitalism is the only form of economy that can work on its own. All of the others need Capitalism because someone has to make the money.
Socialism, Nationalism, Communism and others will all fail without someone producing.
Capitalism is Boss.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:49 pm to Slippy
quote:
We don’t know what that communist future will look like. We know that our age of automation has created the possibility of free time. We know that we have collectively created the means to sustain all on this planet. But, we also know that we have built this abundance at the cost of environmental devastation. Both climate change and the irrevocable fact of nuclear weapons reduce the original communist hope for collective management of everything; these totalizing threats demands a certain level of totalitarian management. It is my view that an honest communist can now no longer say that the state can be done away with entirely—these true threats require a handful of true bureaucrats to manage them.
You know what this paragraph says to me? It’s written by a person who lives every second of their life in irrational fear. It’s got it all; fear of automation and technology replacing humans, fear of nukes, and of course fear of environmental catastrophe. So what is their solution to all of these fears? Turn everything over to some central planner bureaucrat and let them run every aspect of our lives so that they can protect us from all of their irrational fears.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:51 pm to culsutiger
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Even if that were true (It's not), the problem comes when "you" aren't in charge anymore.
Not disagreeing with you, just adding on.
Oh absolutely. If the hypothetical "I" were to ever actually gain any power, the brutal mother frickers that helped that person get there would immediately put a bullet in their head and take over.
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