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re: Why Have Indians Done So Well in the US?

Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
931 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Microsoft sure seems to do OK.


I honestly can't see the point of white kids or hispanic or black kids going to school anymore to be Computer programmers. They say there are hundreds of thousands of them graduating from our colleges every year. But where are these American Citizen kids getting jobs with Indians and other foreign Asian types taking all of the development jobs by the thousands?
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1864 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:14 pm to
Perhaps it’s because we are fat, lazy, and weak
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60697 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:16 pm to
Nepotism and super high pressure parenting.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47620 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:21 pm to
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The problem is that it comes at our expense, and it locks us out.

Work 60 hours per week from the time you are 15 and see if you’re locked out. Gimme a friggin break; locked out!

Fisherking was correct. It’s because we tend to get the good ones coming over here, and they tend to work their asses off.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25525 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Subsides, welfare and DEI hiring preferences.


So why aren't blacks seeing similar successes?

While those things may be boosting success, their adherence to family values, education, and relentless hard work explain the overall results.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Why Have Indians Done So Well in the US?

Tweet definitely is a good reason for it.

Essentially White Americans were sold down the river for cheap labor. Both cheap blue and white collar collar jobs.

This is why I have such a big concern about whether or not Vance will do what it takes to help deport indians too and pu6y a stop to the HB1 visas. And stop anchor babies too.

From what I can tell Texans has fricked themselves. Especially since all their Indians still brought that caste system over. I've seen it first hand in tech.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61049 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:26 pm to
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The problem is that it comes at our expense, and it locks us out.
Only if you think Americans are dumb to compete. In which, case keeping out smarter immigrants is an even dumber idea.

I don't know a single immigrant that didn't work harder, smarter, or better than the natives they surpassed. It's weird how successful they are in this land that's filled with systemmic racism.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68760 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:28 pm to
they are coming from 3rd world countries pretty much. that has to motivate them to be successful. they aren't lazy.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Perhaps it’s because we are fat, lazy, and weak


You're an anti White racist?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:32 pm to
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Only if you think Americans are dumb to compete. In which, case keeping out smarter immigrants is an even dumber idea.



They're not as smart as we are

But because they operate as ethnic collectives, and put nepotism over competence, they can lock us out of the economy. Look upthread at the posts about tech companies that are majority Indian now.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37137 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:01 pm to
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I honestly can't see the point of white kids or hispanic or black kids going to school anymore to be Computer programmers. They say there are hundreds of thousands of them graduating from our colleges every year. But where are these American Citizen kids getting jobs with Indians and other foreign Asian types taking all of the development jobs by the thousands?
I was talking about the CEO, who is widely believed to be better than his predecessors.

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But where are these American Citizen kids getting jobs with Indians and other foreign Asian types taking all of the development jobs by the thousands?
Do you have any numbers? I'm guessing the vast majority of "indians" and "foreign asian types" are american citizens.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:06 pm to
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Our Indian immigrants are generally high caste

The Patels are an example of an exception though. They're farmers in India.



Correct, but if you look at 1st gen Indian and Asian Americans, they tend to achieve as much or more than their immigrant parents


The parents see their move to America as a giant risk and/or sacrifice and they make sure their children do something productive with it.
Posted by TaipeiTiger
Taipei, Taiwan
Member since Mar 2019
70 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:11 pm to
Indians also lie on their resume. This was told to me by an Indian friend. They practice what to say in interview loops and test questions. Then bust their arse when they get the job. It's a fake it till you make it.

I've come across many that are unskilled trying to make it but also many that are extremely intelligent. So it's a mixed bag. Their frugalness helps a lot when it comes to margins for companies.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Indians also lie on their resume. This was told to me by an Indian friend. They practice what to say in interview loops and test questions. Then bust their arse when they get the job. It's a fake it till you make it.


Imagine a whole country that operates this way, and you end up with modern India
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15704 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:07 pm to
You look at the average iq score of Indians who live in America and then compare the average iq of Indians who still live in India.

You will see a massive advantage for Indians here. That is because they are the ones who came over.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Essentially White Americans were sold down the river for cheap labor. Both cheap blue and white collar collar jobs.

This is why I have such a big concern about whether or not Vance will do what it takes to help deport indians too and pu6y a stop to the HB1 visas. And stop anchor babies too.


Yes
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47620 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:39 pm to
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Essentially White Americans were sold down the river for cheap labor. Both cheap blue and white collar collar jobs.

While this is somewhat true, it is not true at all for Indians in the USA, who are way more expensive than white people.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
2703 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:02 am to
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Easy: The importance of family and education in that culture. Anyone who values these things will almost certainly succeed. And those who don’t? Well we’ve seen how that turns out.


So then why doesn't that translate to success in their own country?
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
931 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:11 am to
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Do you have any numbers? I'm guessing the vast majority of "indians" and "foreign asian types" are american citizens.


I don't have numbers..But, I can tell you the vast majority of Indians I work with were on H1B Visa status a long long time before they got Green Cards or permanent status...I'm pretty good friends with a couple of them and they complained a lot about the wait to get permanent status...One of them I know waited for 12 years working the entire time at the same company I work for...I'd say the wait is 10 to 12 years for most..

They only offer so many Green Cards / New Citizenship status per country every year, and it's the same amount for every country so since they are from India and there is a boatload of Indians here in the USA on Visas, it's an extremely long waiting list for them...I imagine the same for Chinese as well...If they were Iranians or from some other country we don't have many foreigners from, they would get a Green Card or Citizenship status way faster..
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 12:25 am
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13602 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:15 am to
We are getting India’s best and most educated in most cases.
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