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re: Why exactly are some Conservatives Pro-Russia?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:14 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:14 pm to AggieHank86
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n very simplified form, many entire-rational "conservatives" have decided that fiscal restraint is more important to them than are our international obligations to our European allies.
Ukraine was never an ally. They weren’t part of NATO, which we have an obligation to. There was an agreement that NATO wouldn’t be on Russias doorstep and it’s been fine for a while. Then Brandon gets the bright idea to maybe add Ukraine to NATO and place nuclear warheads on Russias doorstep.
Then we spend 350 billion dollars to protect a country we have 0 obligation to while the European countries try to strike natural gas pipeline agreements with Russia to become dependent on them.
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:15 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Vlad is fighting globohomo.
That's not what this war is about and anyone who believes that it is is pants-on-head retarded. This is a war of geography, resources, and demography, not ideology.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:15 pm to AggieHank86
One of Putin's biggest internal allies is a Muslim warlord. Iran supplies his drones and missiles, while North Korea also provides artillery and missiles. China provides bullet proof vests, electronics, and keeps their economy afloat.
Where people got the idea that Russia is going to "save Christianity" is beyond me
Where people got the idea that Russia is going to "save Christianity" is beyond me
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:15 pm to WildManGoose
The US caused this war.
Since the fall of the Wall, we have lied and double crossed the Russians.
We told the Russians when they pulled out of Germany, "Not one inch eastward". Then we pushed 1000 miles eastward.
We overthrew the lawful government of Ukraine in 2014 for an American puppet.
We violated the Minsk Agreements.
We prevented peace in 2022. Over a million lives lost since.
AND, the very people who say terrible things about Putin say the same terrible things about Trump.and me and every Trump supporter.
And, these same people hate America, and mutilate it's children, throw open its borders, pilliage it's treasury...on and on.
And all.this has been posted a 100.times with links and documentation.
But a personal word to the OP. You don't know shite about this issue. You've done no.reading. your just following your gut.
That's ignorant. And the reason we are losing this country is because half the population is too stupid and lazy to think for themselves.
Since the fall of the Wall, we have lied and double crossed the Russians.
We told the Russians when they pulled out of Germany, "Not one inch eastward". Then we pushed 1000 miles eastward.
We overthrew the lawful government of Ukraine in 2014 for an American puppet.
We violated the Minsk Agreements.
We prevented peace in 2022. Over a million lives lost since.
AND, the very people who say terrible things about Putin say the same terrible things about Trump.and me and every Trump supporter.
And, these same people hate America, and mutilate it's children, throw open its borders, pilliage it's treasury...on and on.
And all.this has been posted a 100.times with links and documentation.
But a personal word to the OP. You don't know shite about this issue. You've done no.reading. your just following your gut.
That's ignorant. And the reason we are losing this country is because half the population is too stupid and lazy to think for themselves.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:15 pm to Grinder
Russia hates the illuminate. Question should be why does everyone seem to hate this one country so much.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:17 pm to omegaman66
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Question should be why does everyone seem to hate this one country so much.
The way they act is easy to dislike. Especially since 2008.
It's not like people are just randomly picking on Russia, especially after they invoked yet another country (Ukraine)
What other country has their history of invasions since 2008?
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:17 pm to Grinder
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but Russia is led by the worst man on the planet.
This is how I know you are either a troll or very stupid..
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I just don’t get it.
No you do not.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
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without being provoked
You’re wasting your time tilting at this particular windmill. Once he’s set his mind on a specific idea, there is no changing it.
There is intelligence and wisdom. You either have intelligence or you don’t, you can’t acquire more intelligence. But you can acquire wisdom and become wiser. To do so, one must perform qualitative self analysis.
Obviously, he’s intelligent.
Also, I think he’s as wise as he was when he was 18.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:18 pm to Grinder
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I just don’t get it.
You think like a child. Thats why
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:18 pm to MrFantastic
Trying to add the nations east of Poland to NATO was one of the dumbest decisions of this century. It was simply looking to create friction with Russia needlessly.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:19 pm to G The Tiger Fan
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We love our Communist dictatorships.
Do you know what a communist is?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:19 pm to Grinder
So let kill everyone, don’t you sometimes think our government has been the bad guys.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:20 pm to Grinder
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I just don’t get it.
Russia hates gays and that's about it.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Clearly you weren't around during the Iraq invasion era, when all the people now LARPing as non-interventionists attacked me for my opposition to invading Iraq.
I was not. Your tenure is impressive.
So you do think W is a very bad guy?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:21 pm to Grinder
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Why exactly are some Conservatives Pro-Russia?
I find the biggest correlation to be anti-Semitism and white supremacy. You'll see it coded throughout this thread.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:21 pm to LuckyTiger
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You’re wasting your time tilting at this particular windmill. Once he’s set his mind on a specific idea, there is no changing it.
We have gotten into this the past 2 days
I'm still waiting on all the legitimate sourcing from 2013 to explain how Yanukovych unilaterally rejecting EU integration (which was extremely popular with the Ukrainian population and government) at the 11th hour was due to US/Western actions. Or, bonus points if anyone can explain what this has to do with NATO.
I mean you just saw the NPC talking points in this thread about how Zelensky was even a part of what followed the above miscalculation by Putin. Z ousted that government that we purportedly installed via purported coup.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're arguing that a country with several "homogeneous" regions of various ethnicities is homogeneous as an entire country.
Russia is quite diverse. I’ll salute you for that one.
Most people don’t know this.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:22 pm to LuckyTiger
Putin comes up with crimes against any Oligarch he doesnt like and seizes their assets. Russia is more of an organized crime state than it is communist these days, but communism was always a intellectual term for the state being a mafia
For any of you thinking Putin is the savior of Christianity:
Jailed for burning Koran
For any of you thinking Putin is the savior of Christianity:
Jailed for burning Koran
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:22 pm to Grinder
Not pro-Russia but I have more respect for them than weak arse leftists. The latter are more of a threat to my country than the former.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:22 pm to RiverCityTider
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But a personal word to the OP. You don't know shite about this issue. You've done no.reading. your just following your gut. That's ignorant. And the reason we are losing this country is because half the population is too stupid and lazy to think for themselves.
Ignorant, huh? Stupid and lazy?
I can tell you don’t know me, but everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
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