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re: Why doesnt Iran sink tankers or cargo vessels in the SOH?

Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:07 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:07 am to
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That series of events could end the internet. Of course I don't want that
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:12 am to
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That was Trump


Wow.

Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:16 am to
Are you denying that Trump said that?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:18 am to
No im not you morons

Your fellow hamas bro is using it to try and justify his love for the mullahs like you

After crying about everything Trump has done
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:23 am to
I'm sorry that you're unable to understand anything.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:23 am to
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The fact that Saturday's rates were cut by 80% isn't a great sign that the SOH is "open". That's 20% of 50% of 2025 rates.


Yet crude continues to drop.

The SOH gig is up. Iran is only hurting themselves.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:25 am to
I understand that you are a moron who thinks the IRGC are rational ppl

So does Bunk and Trump.

The difference is Trump uses it for negotiations. You are just a mullah lover
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:29 am to
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Yet crude continues to drop.

If the SOH remains largely closed, it won't

The memorandum of understanding led to markets reacting. Now the mortgouts have to react to the memorandum possibly not opening up the strait
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:30 am to
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I understand that you are a moron who thinks the IRGC are rational ppl

They're clearly not rational. They have acted rationally in this conflict that we started.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:33 am to
Just stop powermuallah

You arent fooling anyone
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:33 am to
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If the SOH remains largely closed, it won't The memorandum of understanding led to markets reacting. Now the mortgouts have to react to the memorandum possibly not opening up the strait


The mere mention of closing it last time spiked oil prices overnight.

Either oil is getting through and/or the gulf nations are using other routes.

Iran closing the SOH has no teeth anymore. Besides, I doubt it’s closed. The ships are turning off their transponders.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:34 am to
Laugh at me in month or two, but I am seeing a lot of things like this that we are that close to disaster. I think it's what drove Trump to the MOU and the comments about having four weeks of reserves and not wanting to be Herbert Hoover.
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The structural constraint at the heart of the current energy crunch is the refinery barrel itself. Military jet fuel (JP-8) and civilian diesel are not refined from separate barrels — they compete for the same distillate cut from every barrel processed. So if Trump orders the Pentagon to start bombing Iran again, that will trigger draw downs on stocks — assuming the ops tempo in the Gulf is sustained — and refiners will face pressure to tilt output toward JP-8, which directly squeezes the supply of diesel and civil aviation fuel. In other words, there is no free barrel; every gallon of military fuel is a gallon not available to a trucking company, a farmer, or an airline.

Of all the downstream effects, diesel tightness is the most economically dangerous and the fastest-moving. Unlike gasoline, which is a consumer cost, diesel is an input cost — embedded in every freight shipment, every food delivery, every industrial process. When diesel tightens, the price increase doesn’t stop at the pump; it cascades through supply chains and lands simultaneously on freight rates, grocery prices, manufacturing margins, and retail costs. That kind of broad-based input inflation is one of the more reliable causes of recession, because it compresses margins economy-wide while simultaneously suppressing consumer purchasing power.

This helps explain why Donald Trump pivoted so quick to support the MoU with Iran. The real allocation question is not whether to release the SPR or whether to jawbone OPEC into producing more — it is how hard to run the war. Every incremental increase in operational intensity consumes distillate that the domestic economy cannot easily replace, tightening a transmission belt that runs directly from the Strait of Hormuz into Main Street prices. The tradeoff between war intensity and economic stability is not an abstract strategic concern; it is a daily refinery scheduling decision with macroeconomic consequences.

Here is the problem: currently, the US has approximately a 30-day supply of diesel. It is estimated that somewhere between 8% (VLCC class alone) and a figure approaching 15–20% of the broader crude and product tanker fleet is either stranded or effectively withdrawn from global circulation — a supply shock to shipping capacity that compounds the underlying oil supply disruption. This means there is no ready, quick solution to fill that gap in 30 days. In fact, the delay to restore the US supply of diesel could last as long as 60 days. In short, oil is not going to flow fast enough globally to meet existing demand, which probably accounts for Trump sudden decision last week to sign the MoU with Iran. A knowledgeable expert who provided me with this information believes that we will hit the wall of diesel shortage in July.

How’s that for cheery news?

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:40 am to
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The mere mention of closing it last time spiked oil prices overnight.

Either oil is getting through and/or the gulf nations are using other routes.

Or they think this is all bluster from Trump and Iran and the MOU is still on.

Oil is not getting through at anywhere near 2025 rates, and the alternative routes aren't ready yet.

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Iran closing the SOH has no teeth anymore.

No

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Besides, I doubt it’s closed. The ships are turning off their transponders.

It's significantly reduced from 2025 levels
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:43 am to
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Laugh at me in month or two, but I am seeing a lot of things like this that we are that close to disaster. I think it's what drove Trump to the MOU and the comments about having four weeks of reserves and not wanting to be Herbert Hoover.


Someone forgot to tell Motiva in Port Arthur. Then you have Galveston. What you posted is fear porn. Nothing more.

We have no shortage of D6 either. Brownsville is kicking arse.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:44 am to
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You arent fooling anyone

I don't need to fool anyone. All I need to do is tell the truth. And that's enough for you to melt down.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:49 am to
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The SOH gig is up. Iran is only hurting themselves.

If that was true why not continue the blockade? Why let up at all?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:50 am to
Because it's not true. Pretty simple.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:50 am to
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Someone forgot to tell Motiva in Port Arthur. Then you have Galveston. What you posted is fear porn. Nothing more.

We have no shortage of D6 either. Brownsville is kicking arse.


Good lord.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42980 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:51 am to
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It's significantly reduced from 2025 levels


It doesn’t matter. There is an oversupply of oil right now. Plus China cut back demand drastically.

Iran is only hurting their own economy.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174638 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 8:54 am to
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It doesn’t matter

Be sure to stick your fingers in your ears before you put your head in the sand.
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