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re: Why does this board hate Massie?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:40 am to Centinel
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:40 am to Centinel
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I heard there was a list of names a republican house rep was going to release any day now.
Yeah it’s totally not believable that our representatives would engage in such heinous activities.
• H.Res. 1100 (sponsored by Rep. Nancy Mace, R-SC), introduced March 4, 2026: It directed the House Ethics Committee to preserve and publicly release records on violations or alleged violations related to sexual harassment (under House rules). ?
• Vote (Roll Call 83): Failed 357–65 (with 1 present, 9 not voting). It had bipartisan opposition but support from some members pushing for disclosure. ?
• Yeas: Mostly those wanting names/records released (e.g., Reps. Mace, Massie, Langworthy, Cammack).
• Nays: Large majorities of both parties.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 5:24 am to CastleBravo
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Nobody likes a narcissist that makes everything about themselves.
So you totally don’t like Trump.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 6:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You have a silly habit of late, assuming superficiality in analyzing opposing arguments. Perhaps instead, you should assume "MAGA 'hates' him" for an actual reason, and try to sort it out. Because that reason, rather than relativism, is directly respondent to the OP.
Because MAGA hates him and they're engaging in relativism
So what is the reason Massie is disliked?
Obviously, none of this is new. You've simply dismissed it. But we can do it once again.
In a US House of Representatives where the majority is historically narrow, and one or two GOP defections can derail legislation if Democrats stay unified, Massie consistently defected. Defecting on an isolated occasion or two, or on a particularly egregious piece of legislation, would be one thing. Instead though, Massie did so on virtually every vote of major importance to Trump. Massie did not abstain from those votes. He fully abetted the other side. He voted with the Squad. He voted with Hakeem Jeffries He voted against the GOP and Trump.
He claimed he did so "on principle." Of course, his holding of "principle" was undercut significantly when he lied to his constituents, insisting he voted with Trump 91% of the time.
His record in the 119th Congress did not come anywhere close to that claim. In fact, on the biggest issues of budgeting and foreign policy, Massie's votes aligned far more closely to those of Ilhan Omar than to the GOP. A "principled" man would simply own that, state why he did it, and did it so often. Instead, he lied to his constituents; he denied he'd done what in fact he did during this entire term.
On consequential legislation/action:
• The 2025 Debt Limit extension votes - Massie successfully scuttled Debt Limit extension, which enabled Schumer and the Dems to shutdown the government during Trump's critical 1st 100 days. Dems were delighted. It was perhaps Massie's singular most ridiculous move. Especially as he'd supported the same measure in 2023 under Biden.
• The 2025 GOP budget resolution - Massie was the single GOP "No" vote joining every House Democrat
• The March 2025 continuing resolution (government funding bill) - Massie was the single GOP "No" vote joining every House Democrat
• The “One Big Beautiful Bill” (H.R. 1) X 2 (May & July 2025) - Massie was one of two GOP "No" votes. There was no margin. 3 GOP "No's" would have sunk the bill, which gave other GOP'ers tremendous leverage to exact their own little goodies in the omnibus, or in future legislation.
• At a time when major foreign and domestic issues required focus (e.g., EU relationships, the economy, China, global trade relations, etc), and the Administration was trying to get unified messaging to break through MSM smokescreens, Massie turned into a distracting Epstein-file attention whore. He didn't give a Rat's arse about Epstein during the Biden Admin, but suddenly when Trump is trying to focus messaging, Massie was right there with Dems using the Epstein diversion, even after 100% of the files were made available to him.
Meanwhile, Massie's views of US foreign policy are not isolationist. They are cuckoldist. Massie sees nothing wrong with post-WWII international asymmetry in trade policy. He sees nothing wrong with offshoring critical US industry. He sees nothing wrong with asymmetric regulations disproportionately driving up domestic costs and domestic unemployment. He sees nothing wrong with US private industry directly competing with heavily subsidized state-owner enterprises abroad. He sees nothing wrong with patent infringement in those instances being the source of cheap imports and US job loss.
He sees nothing wrong with the US standing down while China or other countries expand international influence. In fact, he strongly supports such policy.
E.g., Despite Venezuelan prominence in the drug trade, in mass (criminal) illegal migrations to the US, in funding Cuba and anti-US Communism, in providing ports for Chinese and Russian Naval military assets, etc., Massey thought the incursion to take out Maduro was terrible. He presumed the Venezuelan affair was poorly planned, haphazard, doomed to failure, and unconstitutional. Basically, Massie thought the US should serve as Maduro's international cuckold. Whatever Maduro wanted to do in the hemisphere, and to whom he wanted to do it, was his business, and Uncle Sam should be relegated to a bedroom chair to quietly watch him enjoying the fruits of his efforts. The same was true of China's increased influence in Panama.
Now you can excuse Massie's voting alignment anyway you want. You can rationalize his cuckoldist foreign policy views, both economic and military. Perhaps you can even excuse him lying to KY-4 voters about his record. But as a result of his voting alignment, Dems endorsed him, as did their party mouthpiece, the NY Times.
To a non-TDS infested poster, those facts would form a basis of doubt about the dude. Yet, you register no doubts, and insinuate those who do are rote simpletons.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 6:37 am to LPLGTiger
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He is pro Epstein list, against AIPAC, wants closed borders. Explain why Trump hates this guy.
Because the swamp has tried to take out Trump numerous times
The short answer is You don’t win votes trying to take away our vote for President bashing him every day
Massie became “one of them” in the swamp though he believes he is principled and “honest”
There is enough criticism on Trump for 20 presidents
Same team member doing it?
You’re toast
The Trump presidency is not about Trump…
We’ve had unthinkable corruption the last 10 years
It’s difficult to expose it and deliver justice
Evil world
Posted on 5/20/26 at 6:38 am to LPLGTiger
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He is pro Epstein list,
Correction. Obsessed with the Epstein list.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 6:43 am to NashvilleTider
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No one cares about Epstein
What if it was your daughter that was being used by those pedophile billionaires?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 6:46 am to FlyDownTheField83
What if your daughter was the woman who accused Massie or retaliation and payoff? She was dismissed by this board. She has came forward with her claims before any epstien victims.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:02 am to LPLGTiger
Obstructionist
He is too simple minded to get the whole picture. Simple as that.
He is too simple minded to get the whole picture. Simple as that.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:04 am to David_DJS
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Because Trump hates him.
This is correct.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:04 am to FlyDownTheField83
quote:I would vote straight Dem Party and toss in Meghan McMassie for good measure.
What if it was your daughter that was being used by those pedophile billionaires?
I really loved all the work they got done during Obama and Biden terms! It really moved it forward!
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:10 am to FlyDownTheField83
quote:I would want her to do whatever helped heal her.
What if it was your daughter that was being used by those pedophile billionaires?
If healing involved a large civil settlement and an agreement to remain silent, and never have the issue come up again, so be it.
If she decided to pursue criminal charges instead, I would do everything I could to support that, including supporting public testimony, etc.
It seems most of the victims elected to go the first route. Because certainly they could have otherwise testified before Congress and a national audience. There was a wide open invitation for that kind of testimony. Did a single victim come forward?
Further, the Epstein files, in their totality, were released for access by congress members. EpsteinEpsteinEpsteinMotorMouths like Massie promised to release names and evidence. Yet, after accessing ALL the files, they did nothing of the sort, which is perplexing. Nor did they claim that information was being withheld in those privately viewed files. Instead, EpsteinEpsteinEpsteinMotorMouths like Massie simply continued their EpsteinEpsteinEpsteinMotorMouthing.
At that point, any pretense of truth-seeking about an international pool of elite ephebophiles was officially ceded to simple grandstanding by a domestic pool of politicians, Massie chief amongst them.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:16 am to LPLGTiger
Because most people here think that they and Trump are conservatives
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:23 am to Srbtiger06
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Someone please explain how I'm wrong.
You're not wrong. These people think Trump plays 5D chess. There are reasons no other President went to war with Iran.
Which shows even more that Trump did it for Israel.
And the Trump brigade's only defense is "check gas prices under Biden" which is so lazy.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:24 am to Srbtiger06
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Someone please explain how I'm wrong.
I don't think you are. I love me some Trump but his Iran strategy is a head-scratcher. I, too, wish he'd just act and be done with it.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:25 am to LPLGTiger
Because most on this board are FDR conservatives
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:26 am to CastleBravo
You say this while supporting Trump. 
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:27 am to THRILLHO
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Look up a handful of the major NGO's that facilitate immigration into the US (including Muslim countries). Look at the names of the board members.
I looked. So what’s your point?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:35 am to jrodLSUke
While we're fact checking.
"I’m a 'no' on the border bill because it mandates E-Verify... It’s a federal permission slip to work. It’s a digital ID. It’s the groundwork for a social credit system."
"If you don’t think a future administration would use a federal database that determines whether you can work to determine other aspects of your life, you’re naive."
"I’m a 'no' on the border bill because it mandates E-Verify... It’s a federal permission slip to work. It’s a digital ID. It’s the groundwork for a social credit system."
"If you don’t think a future administration would use a federal database that determines whether you can work to determine other aspects of your life, you’re naive."
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:59 am to NashvilleTider
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No one cares about Epstien
You should have read this board when Trump was running for president.
Kind of crazy how quickly that priority flipped.
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