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re: Why does Alex Jones have to pay for media hoax?

Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
Unless you are making criminal threats, or accusing someone of a crime, there is no basis to infringe on someone's right to speak their opinion.

How corrupt courts interpret the law, and what the law actually is, are two entirely different things, as we see time and again.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:42 pm to
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But (Alex Jones) is a journalist Hank!
I think you are being generous.
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What about the chilling effect?!?!? The chilling effect!!!!
The threat of defamation actions is a safeguard against muckraking and similar "journalistic" practices.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26190 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Unless you are making criminal threats, or accusing someone of a crime, there is no basis to infringe on someone's right to speak their opinion.

Then I suggest you lobby your legislature to eliminate defamation and libel laws in your state.
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How corrupt courts interpret the law, and what the law actually is, are two entirely different things, as we see time and again.

Default. Judgment. Jones didn’t even present a defense on the merits. This trial is only about damages.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Alex Jones
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But he is a journalist


Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23171 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:45 pm to
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The threat of defamation actions is a safeguard against muckraking and similar "journalistic" practices.




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Horse shite.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Unless you are making criminal threats, or accusing someone of a crime, there is no basis to infringe on someone's right to speak their opinion.
If I were to assert that Metaloctopus' daughter performs $20 blowjobs to buy crack for herself and her daddy, I would be exposed to a defamation action (unless she DOES sell $20 blowjobs to buy you crack).
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7304 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:46 pm to
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accusing someone of a crime, there is no basis to infringe on someone's right to


If Sandy Hook was a hoax, which Jones suggested, ....would not that be crime?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23171 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:47 pm to
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If I were to assert that Metaloctopus' daughter performs $20 blowjobs to buy crack for herself and her daddy, I would be exposed to a defamation action (unless she DOES sell $20 blowjobs to buy you crack).


And if you were a left wing pundit the case would be dismissed.
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:49 pm to
Because some fake children that never existed were killed and their actor parents get to cash in on their fake deaths.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:51 pm to
I’m waiting on you to post the exact defamatory quote.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64651 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:53 pm to
They took away his journalistic platform. Yet rioters can run amuck claiming to be journalists.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:53 pm to
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Name them.


You haven't done any research, have you? Supposedly dead people, had people talking on their facebook pages about their death, before they were supposed to be dead. Many of the parents were known local crisis actors. One of the girls who was supposed to be dead was shown to have been photoshopped into a fake family photo. And it was her "dad" who was on video laughing the day of the "shooting" when he thought he was off camera, only to immediately shift to a somber voice when he stepped up to the podium.

The medical examiner was all over the board with his supposed findings when he spoke to the media, and he also was cracking jokes, which was really bizarre. There was no sense of urgency from the first responders on the scene, Ambulances just sat there, blocking each other, as if they had never been in an emergency situation before.

These are just highlights. I am not one to call something a false flag unless I have a really good reason to believe it is. This was absolutely one of them. Even if it wasn't, the reason for doubt is very strong. I don't agree with a lot of what Alex Jones says with a lot of other things, but it wasn't him who got me doubting Sandy Hook. He's being hung out to dry on this one.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by lpb tiger
Member since Mar 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
Are you trying to defend this piece of s..t?
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:59 pm to
The current system [which allows for defamation suits] discriminates against poorer people in another way; for their own speech is restricted, since they are less likely to disseminate true but derogatory knowledge about the wealthy for fear of having costly libel suits filed against them.

Other Dangers Loom on the Horizon
It is possible to conceive of future cases in which defamation law could be used to enforce modern notions of political correctness.

For example, accusing another person of mental illness is often considered to be a type of defamation per se. So, what happens when a person states that transgender people suffer from a type of mental illness? Potentially, those who express this opinion could be sued for defamation in court by those who claim they were harmed by being cast as mentally ill.

mises

Read all about future Nazi's
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:00 pm to
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If I were to assert that Metaloctopus' daughter performs $20 blowjobs to buy crack for herself and her daddy, I would be exposed to a defamation action (unless she DOES sell $20 blowjobs to buy you crack).


What you just said would be accusing someone of a crime, because buying crack is a crime.

You're a real genius, aren't you?
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13074 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
That's because there was/is no PROVABLE-IN-COURT Russian collusion hoax. Facts are stubborn things.
Posted by TrumpTakeTheWheel
MAGAVille, Down-voted by libs only
Member since Jun 2022
380 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:02 pm to
Honestly, I can't back Alex Jones. He is complete trash and his type hurts our movements. Let's quit pretending he is somehow some kind of conservative hero
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20804 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:05 pm to
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Defending Alex Jones


I don't think people hear are defending Alex Jones. Their defense is in regards to the first amendment, whether you think that is valid or not. Why don't you talk about that instead ?
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by TrumpTakeTheWheel
MAGAVille, Down-voted by libs only
Member since Jun 2022
380 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:06 pm to
Free speech is free but not lies. You can't outright lie about others in a public forum. He's getting what he deserved. Yeah I get it, the msm lies everyday but we can't be like them.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Honestly, I can't back Alex Jones. He is complete trash and his type hurts our movements. Let's quit pretending he is somehow some kind of conservative hero


Remember when he was removed from social media in 2018 and people like you shrugged their shoulders? That set a precedent and now anyone or anything that goes against the narrative can be banned or fake checked.

Now we can have government officials inciting ANTIFA and BLM riots that harm people and nothing is done, yet Alex freakin Jones has to pay 4 million?

You’re part of the reason our country is going to hell. Politically correct bullshite and trying to maintain an image so no one will think a certain way about you.
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