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re: Why does Alex Jones have to pay for media hoax?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:08 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:08 am to Metaloctopus
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What you just said would be accusing someone of a crime, because buying crack is a crime.
You don’t think it’s illegal to orchestrate a fake mass shooting and pretend your kid was killed?
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You're a real genius, aren't you?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:18 am to GeorgeWest
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Facts are stubborn things.
Then why do you ignore them?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:42 am to Eurocat
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Jones said that the children killed were actors, playing a role, here are links to their childhood photos and things like that which shows they did exist in real life and were not any kind of theatrical products.
Odd...
No one refuted this claim OR the LINK you provided. (nice job)
The knee-jerking detractors are a bunch or cowards and Gatekeepers of the usual BULLSH*T.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:43 am to Revelator
AJ is controlled opposition. IMO it is a psy-ops, with children used as collateral damage.
Sandy Hook happened and it was a horrible act against humanity. Something of that magnitude can't be staged (same with the moon landings).
But as BHO said quote "what is the price of freedom"?.cold.
To control this country, it's people and it's wealth, the guns have to go, and if you do not think a totalitarian regime (and this is not an issue of political affiliation, evil breaks both ways) wouldn't sacrifice children to reach that end, then you do not have a grasp on what men, and women, are capable of.
Is it in the realm of possibility that gov agencies know who some of these mass-shooter types are, where they live, and how to trigger them through chat forums?
Is it in the realm of possibility that these people are triggered to commit these acts to force gun control, taking into full consideration a regime above described?
Is it in the realm of possibility that if the tracks aren't covered and investigative people start to dig, AJ falls on his sword, and his rhetoric immediately invalidates anyone who questions the narrative?
The answer to all three above questions is yes.
Sandy Hook happened and it was a horrible act against humanity. Something of that magnitude can't be staged (same with the moon landings).
But as BHO said quote "what is the price of freedom"?.cold.
To control this country, it's people and it's wealth, the guns have to go, and if you do not think a totalitarian regime (and this is not an issue of political affiliation, evil breaks both ways) wouldn't sacrifice children to reach that end, then you do not have a grasp on what men, and women, are capable of.
Is it in the realm of possibility that gov agencies know who some of these mass-shooter types are, where they live, and how to trigger them through chat forums?
Is it in the realm of possibility that these people are triggered to commit these acts to force gun control, taking into full consideration a regime above described?
Is it in the realm of possibility that if the tracks aren't covered and investigative people start to dig, AJ falls on his sword, and his rhetoric immediately invalidates anyone who questions the narrative?
The answer to all three above questions is yes.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:07 am to keks tadpole
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AJ is controlled opposition. IMO it is a psy-ops, with children used as collateral damage.
OR..
Was AJ an too-influential Truth-Teller who needed to be shut down somehow? Was it possible that he was eventually co-opted? Possibly threatened and coerced in a deal that he was to mis-direct his audience? (Some say the same phenomena also happened to Glenn Beck).
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Sandy Hook happened and it was a horrible act against humanity. Something of that magnitude can't be staged (same with the moon landings).
Yes, SH *was* a horrible crime. But it's also plain naivete to believe this event wasn't fully suspect. And also very naive to believe other events coudn't have been "Staged" (yes, exactly like the "Moon Landing". At least 1/3 of people don't beeve it actually happened.)
What really drives fabricated / staged events: Cui Bono?
It's all about advancing Long Term/ Short Term agendas that control sovereignty & freedom. AND POPULATION. The "weapon" is propaganda and mind-control.
The Stage is set. Scripts are written. Roles are played.
People, events, reaction and narrative in the aftermath advance an agenda. In support of the agenda are a monolithic Media, Academia and Hollywood to help frame the objective.
The "Truth" in the Public Square has become nothing a fabricated consensus of opinion.
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But as BHO said quote "what is the price of freedom"?.cold.
WHO??
Once definitive Truth is destroyed, undermined and redefined, true "Freedom" (and free Speech) dies. THAT is what this AJ Case is actually about.
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To control this country, it's people and it's wealth, the guns have to go, and if you do not think a totalitarian regime (and this is not an issue of political affiliation, evil breaks both ways) wouldn't sacrifice children to reach that end, then you do not have a grasp on what men, and women, are capable of.
THIS equation I concur with.
Given children have become Political Props, in the name of Gun Control (and a Dem Party possessing ZERO Ethics/Morals), what convinces you and others that The AJ Narrative/"Hoax" could not have possibly been an Op?
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Is it in the realm of possibility that gov agencies know who some of these mass-shooter types are, where they live, and how to trigger them through chat forums?
As in groomed "assets"?
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Is it in the realm of possibility that these people are triggered to commit these acts to force gun control, taking into full consideration a regime above described?
Affirmative.
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Is it in the realm of possibility that if the tracks aren't covered and investigative people start to dig, AJ falls on his sword, and his rhetoric immediately invalidates anyone who questions the narrative?
The answer to all three above questions is yes.
Concur.
Your post is well thought out with several dots eventually connected. Yet (like many others), thinking further outside the box gets derailed by the supposed impossibility of tPTB staging "Reality" -- whether long term (NASA), or short term (SH) in support of agenda/narrative control.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:13 am to TrumpTakeTheWheel
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Honestly, I can't back Alex Jones.
He is complete trash and his type hurts our movements. Let's quit pretending he is somehow some kind of conservative hero
First of all -- exactly what is "our movement"?
Nobody has claimed AJ is a "hero" -- conservative or otherwise.
AJ is just a seeker of truth (who often found it). He was also just set up and framed to be a public Scapegoat and cautionary example to those who dare scrutinize events and challenge THE "approved" narrative.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:22 am to FlexDawg
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Remember when he was removed from social media in 2018 and people like you shrugged their shoulders? That set a precedent and now anyone or anything that goes against the narrative can be banned or fake checked.
Now we can have government officials inciting ANTIFA and BLM riots that harm people and nothing is done, yet Alex freakin Jones has to pay 4 million?
BOOM.
Are people really NOT comparing and contrasting the blatant Double Standard here that you've cited?
Dems Maxine Waters, Potato, Schumer etal -- along with Hollywood punks etal ALL get away with ACTUAL incitement.
Meanwhile, Republicans, conservatives, and Whites are now officially referred to and libeled/slandered as "terrorists". LEGALLY.
How aren't those characterizations clear "incitement", illegal and unconstitutional?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to FlexDawg
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irst amendment rights.
Non-existent for defamatory statements. Basic Con Law...
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:32 am to AggieHank86
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The threat of defamation actions is a safeguard against muckraking and similar "journalistic" practices.
Interesting, Counselor...
What's your "defamation / muckraking" position on very public Dem reps incitement (Maxine Waters for one)? On Hollywood's public social media threats & comments?
And especially your opinion with respect to the President edict and that of certain govt officials and agencies who now officially characterize/charge Whites, Conservatives and Republicans as being "Terrorists"?
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The threat of defamation actions is a safeguard against muckraking and similar "journalistic" practices.
And your assessment of the "journalistic" practice by the New York Times, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC and license to libel, slander, defame and muckrack at will, with impunity?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:08 pm to keltonAve
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Non-existent for defamatory statements. Basic Con Law...
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:53 pm to AggieHank86
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The law is essentially the same, with minor differences across the states. The facts are quite different.
And the lawyers dance with words. As they always do.
Does it ever get tiring pretending that you’re right solely by manipulating language? Do you have no internal moral compass?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:17 pm to SUB
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I don't think people hear are defending Alex Jones. Their defense is in regards to the first amendment, whether you think that is valid or not. Why don't you talk about that instead ?
The first amendment has zero to do with this, at no point was any government effort made to censure him.
The Bill of Rights pertains to the citizens relationship with his government not his peers.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:23 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Not only do these smoth brains defend him. They believe in some form or fashion that he's right about Sandy Hook.
Anyone who believes you can do anything that involves the amount of people and time this would have required and keep it quiet is so far off their rocker that there is no hope for return.
They make the flat earthers seem brilliant in comparison.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:29 pm to WhereisAtlanta
quote:Here, there is some overlap.
They make the flat earthers seem brilliant in comparison.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:32 pm to the808bass
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Does it ever get tiring pretending that you’re right solely by manipulating language? Do you have no internal moral compass?
How does this statement apply to this conversation?
The facts of the two cases (Sandman v. Alex Jones) are not the same. Pointing that out is not manipulating language.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:42 pm to AggieHank86
I would imagine some very interesting vin diagrams could be made with this cohort, some very interesting ones indeed.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:58 pm to WhereisAtlanta
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They make the flat earthers seem brilliant in comparison.
Revelatory believes Sandy Hook was fake, as were moon landings, and satellites. He thinks gravity does not exist and the Earth is flat. He is legit retarded.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:02 pm to BayouBlitz
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Revelatory believes Sandy Hook was fake, as were moon landings, and satellites. He thinks gravity does not exist and the Earth is flat. He is legit retarded.
None of what you said is true, but by all means, continue with your baseless diatribe.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:14 pm to QboveTopSecret
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It is possible to conceive of future cases in which defamation law could be used to enforce modern notions of political correctness.
Exactly.
Myopic, disengaged people are so racked emotionally they can't imagine the coming Orwellian future.
As it is, people are walking on eggshells regarding free speech. Now of course our usual Gatekeepers, Block-Watchers, Commies, Progs, Socialists, Dems and hypocritical "friends" need not worry about the blatant double standard of justice.
This case affects:
FUTURE 1A RAMIFICATIONS. Establishes PRECEDENCE. Enables purely PC TARGETING. CHILLS OUT select "Free Speech".
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:17 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:I think you are describing "Liberator," not "Revelator."
Revelator() believes Sandy Hook was fake, as were moon landings, and satellites. He thinks gravity does not exist and the Earth is flat. He is legit retarded.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 2:29 pm
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