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re: Why do you think the government declares wars on various societal ills but the war on guns

Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:01 pm to
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It seems like "War on gun violence" would be palatable and persuasive, no? More so than "gun control" imo.


By all means, call it "war on guns", and see how well that goes for you. The 2nd amendment is pretty widely supported by most Americans, but if you'd rather call it a "war on guns" that probably more accurately describes what the left is trying to do. Gun control is just a sanitized way of lefties trying to curtail the 2nd amendment.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62021 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:02 pm to
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What argument did I make in the OP? Funny that you're accusing me of being emotional when I essentially asked why you're rude.


I wasn’t rude. I offered a direct, albeit negative, commentary on your posts.

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No you didn't. You lashed out because words on a screen triggered you.


I didn’t lash out. I didn’t even direct a response to you.

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Going for the "I know you are but what am I?" approach, eh?


No. You accused me of calling you emotional before I called you emotional. You didn’t even wait for it to happen. But you knew it was coming because you were being emotional.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59110 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:03 pm to
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1) Why does this matter to you?



I wouldn't say it matters to me. It's just a thought I had after reading something about the War on Drugs and gun control.



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2) Gun violence is equally as stupid of a term as "birthing person".



What would you call the phenomenon of someone using a gun to harm another person?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62021 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Because it's more palatable for Americans who largely disagree with wide bands and confiscation.

"War on guns" - while fairly accurate for the progressive position - would make it harder for them to posture that "they're not interested in coming for your guns."


This post is humorous because if the OP answered the question she posed, you’d find out how backwards she really is (assuming she answered it honestly and didn’t run from it because she’s being embarrassed).

I really hopes she’s willing to do it.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76446 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:09 pm to
I'll play along for a minute or 20...

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It seems like "War on gun violence" would be palatable and persuasive, no?


Ok that sounds more palatable.

Let's cut to the chase, how are you going to reduce gun violence without taking guns? And mind you, there is a certain element that seems to use guns for gun violence against their fellow man.

Please tell us what your plan would be to reduce gun violence.

Thanks.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5554 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:13 pm to
Poor kids
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10536 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:14 pm to
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There's a war on poverty. That's a liberal cause, too.


Poverty isn't an enumerated right in the Constitution. Neither are drugs, or any of the other "War On ______" examples I can think of.

The right to bear arms is.

So those saying that it would be self contradictory for the government to declare war on guns have the best answer IMO.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21333 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Why do you think the government declares wars on various societal ills but the war on guns


I think thats an broad generalization. It's one political party that's declared war on the 2A. The Marxist party that hates this nation.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10536 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:18 pm to
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It seems like "War on gun violence" would be palatable and persuasive, no?


They could try it.

Honestly, they haven't gotten very far with any of the "War On ____" that I can think of. The poverty statistics are the same as they were pre-WOP (although that is almost certainly a function of adjusting the metrics so that it never changes) and I don't think going to war against drugs has persuaded anybody to eschew drugs.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62021 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:20 pm to
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I wouldn't say it matters to me. It's just a thought I had after reading something about the War on Drugs and gun control.


Why don’t you answer your own question?

Why do you think it’s called that and who do you think is controlling the semantics of it.
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
“shall not be infringed”
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
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What is the definition of a societal ill?

Something statists create to control other people.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:31 pm to
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"they play"??

It's inspiring to see you use the proper pronoun. You are becoming enlightened, inch by inch.
when you aren't 100% certain if somebody's gender then that's the correct pronoun. I know some people say that she's a girl but I didn't know that for sure
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5087 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:36 pm to
4 cubbies out here red pilling the remaining few men who support the 19th amendment. TYFYS
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted by BeehiveTiger
Damn Near Loachapoka, Alabama
Member since May 2020
616 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:38 pm to
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There's a war on poverty. That's a liberal cause, too.


Irrelevant and also incorrect, whatever.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85986 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:38 pm to
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It seems like "War on gun violence" would be palatable and persuasive, no? More so than "gun control" imo.


Yeah maybe, but those opposed to the efforts (most of the country) probably roll their eyes at the constant categorization of violence as "gun violence" because they understand the point of the modifier is to oppose guns

And those in support of the efforts probably worry it's too broad and risks targeting their bedrock communities and the causes of "gun violence" which they don't actually concern themselves with.

But in reality I think there is simply no real mandate for change or increased pressure on anything to do with gun regulation, and the left is probably pretty unexcited about trying anything fresh in that regard.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14676 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:39 pm to
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What is the definition of a societal ill?


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texridder
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56903 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:40 pm to
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What would you call the phenomenon of someone using a gun to harm another person?


Assault.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1702 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
Cant wait till Elon has people like you locked in reeducation camps.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4635 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
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OK. Have you ever heard of gun control before?


Yes. So have the Jews in Germany.

Banning guns to eliminate gun violence is like banning auto transportation to eliminate drunk driving.

You are not doing anything related to the core problem and helping a Government ensure it faces no resistance to tyranny.
Resistance to tyranny is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists.
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