re: Why do old conservatives get mad when you tell them that SSI is welfare

quote:

---

It's actually the biggest form of welfare

---

hey dickhead, if you are talking about SS that my wife and i paid into for a combined 82 years, you kiss my old arse and ride this pony off into the sunset....you pos

quote:

---

if you are talking about SS that my wife and i paid into for a combined 82 years, you kiss my old arse and ride this pon

---

did you not pay federal income taxes?

do you no consider food stamps, Section 8, Medicaid, and, er, welfare, to be welfare?

quote:

---

That would get him all riled up and really piss my mother off

---

It should have.

quote:

---

b. do the "youth" have the economic power to make better jobs, or are they stuck in a system where economic promise is limited?

---

This is a dumb argument

quote:

---

I guess you and I have different definitions of welfare.

---

I guess my original response to you got deleted, but you're an idiot. You don't get to just make up definitions of words. THe government defines welfare as any program that pays more money to someone then they have paid in. Therefor social security is NOT considered welfare because you can't collect more than you paid in, but SSI and SSD ARE welfare because you certainly can collect more than you paid in.

In fact SSI and SSD are the real reasons Social security is failing. If we would have just stuck with "no one can collect more than they have paid in" everything would be fine.

quote:

---

did you not pay federal income taxes?

do you no consider food stamps, Section 8, Medicaid, and, er, welfare, to be welfare?

---

SS is literally a forced savings bond contribution at about 1/3rd the ROI. Not only is it not welfare, it is in fact the opposite.

quote:

---

It's actually the biggest form of welfare. They will argue that the paid into it like they had a choice. Regardless its welfare

---

do they?

quite the opposite in most cases, it's planned theft

quote:

---

Are long-term disability insurance programs run by private entities also welfare?

---

is there force involved?

is this contractual and based in consent/agreement?

quote:

---

I understand they’re not the government

---

well that makes a big difference

quote:

---

Isn’t spreading that risk around amongst a pool called insurance?

---

under certain circumstances and when it's voluntary

quote:

---

It's actually the biggest form of welfare



Pay me what I've put into it with interest and Im happy.

---

This