re: Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over Israel?

Posted by The Cool No 9

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:12 am to Oilfieldbiology

No problem with me, safe and prosperous Israel and a Palestine who better not be emboldened to sponsor terror anywhere and keep their mouths shut

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This is not a black or white, one or the other issue

conveniently it never is. And most people lose track themselves after minutes of flip flop rhetoric and political yammer like that

This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 11:14 am

Posted by MajorTaylor

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:21 am to Mulerider

Klan characteristics-

* Right Wing

* Christian

* Conservative

* anti-immigrant

* anti-Communist

* anti-labor union

* anti-liberal

* highly patriotic

* "America first!"

* "100% Americanism!"

* promoted Christian morality and Christian values

* pro-law & order and was populated by members of law enforcement.

* promoted the Bible, the Constitution, Liberty, and Freedom.

* presented itself as a bulwark against Communism, godlessness, and anti-Americanism

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Posted by upgrayedd

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:24 am to MajorTaylor

Are you trying to equate people on the right to klan supporters?

Posted by TheGasMan

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:25 am to Perfect Circle

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The Jews returned to Zion in 1947, fulfilling a Biblical prophecy. The fact that such a small nation, with such a small population, has held at bay the Muslim hordes in the ME for 70 years suggests Divine favor.

Held at bay with our money.

I do have a serious question though, not trolling. If the Jewish people are God's chosen people, will they go to heaven without believing that Jesus died for their sins?

Seems kind of odd that God's "chosen people" don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. That's a bit of a let down for them if they're his chosen people and they aren't allowed past the pearly gates because they don't believe in Jesus.

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Posted by Centinel

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:25 am to Collegedropout

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Because somehow people on the left can think more on there own than people on the right.

Many people on the right just love to suck Jewish cock.

Doesn't mean the rest of the country wants to sell out our country to another one.

#RepublicansAreTraitors

nugget is that you?

Posted by MajorTaylor

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:31 am to upgrayedd

If there are similarities it isn't as a result of my doing.

I just find it stupid to limit characterization of the KKK to "Democrat!!" when the Klan was so obviously Right Wing and today's political Right shares so much with the Klan. Much of what drew Americans to the Klan of the 1930's is what drew people to Trump.

Posted by LsuNav

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:42 am to PrimeTime Money

The Israelis stole a country from these people and have increased the size of their country through subsequent wars. Israel has much more support than the Pals on both sides of the political aisle. Both parties are controlled by Jews and Support Israel but Netanyahu is a on the right so that is why he gets his support from the right. The intifadas hurt Israel’s public image and had some impact on the way some American leftists view it. Support for the two state solution is still popular on the left though I t is never going to happen.

The Tuaregs and Kurds will get their own countries before Pals.

Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:42 am to TheGasMan

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I do have a serious question though, not trolling. If the Jewish people are God's chosen people, will they go to heaven without believing that Jesus died for their sins? Seems kind of odd that God's "chosen people" don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. That's a bit of a let down for them if they're his chosen people and they aren't allowed past the pearly gates because they don't believe in Jesus.

Galatians Chapter 3

Who is the Seed of Abraham?
Who are heirs to the promises made to Abraham?
What is Israel?
What did Christ come to do?
Do you believe in the New Testament?

Is the Trinity the same without Christ? Is God the Father different without the Son/Holy Spirit? Same God?

Posted by Perfect Circle

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:42 am to MajorTaylor

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...racism's historical home...

Dude.

Posted by upgrayedd

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:45 am to MajorTaylor

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I just find it stupid to limit characterization of the KKK to "Democrat!!" when the Klan was so obviously Right Wing and today's political Right shares so much with the Klan. Much of what drew Americans to the Klan of the 1930's is what drew people to Trump.

Surely you don't deny that post modern progressivism that the mainstream left has adopted relies heavily on classifying and giving inherent value to groups based on gender and race, right? Their core concept is that people of certain races are worth more than people of other races. Trump drew people that were tired of being sold out for the interests of everyone but the citizens of this country as well as the government's refusal to enforce laws that directly impacted their lives in negative ways. I'm assuming you're just trolling, new guy.

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Posted by Joshjrn

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:47 am to PrimeTime Money

This Opinion piece crossed the wire a few hours ago. If you can get past the over the top tone, it illustrates the short version of the issue: LINK

In a nutshell, the modern left tends to side with Palestinians because they tend to be anti-imperialistic.

Posted by Antonio Moss

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:49 am to Collegedropout

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Sure I have. I've posted the same link 3 times in the past 2 days and nobody has responded over a single point it made.

You're link is a Christian-extremist website whose main argument is that Jews should convert to Christianity because the messiah has already come.

Nothing in it is sourced or analyzed.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:52 am to PrimeTime Money

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If you look at the history, I don’t see how anyone could come to the conclusion that the Palestinians are a victim.

What is the motivation for the left to support the Palestinians over the Israelis?

What if you just don't give a shite and think we shouldn't be giving money or resources to either one?

Posted by Collegedropout

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:58 am to Green Chili Tiger

Then you support Palestine.

Posted by oleheat

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:31 pm to PrimeTime Money

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Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over Israel? by PrimeTime Money

I once asked a self-described progressive to show me "Palestinberg" on a map.

She tried to Google it.

Posted by Friscodog

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:32 pm to Collegedropout

So what about the DNC who said that the capital should be in Jerusalem? What about Chuck Schumer? Nancy Pelosi? Hillary Clinton? Debbie Was Schultz? Diane Feinstein? Mario Cuomo?

Are all of these people traitors too? Just asking...

Posted by Boatshoes

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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:48 pm to PrimeTime Money

If you really do a root cause analysis of everything leftist "I hate Jesus" is the foundation.