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re: Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over Israel?

Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:44 am to
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They also support communism over capitalism.


Ummm no.

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They don't know how to think freely.


Considering this is a republican talking point that is been going on for generations, and has no basis in reality, I would say you and your kind are the ones that have more trouble thinking freely
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6847 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:46 am to
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Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over the Israel?


A good question. Very confusing, because Israel is a secular state; the Left tends to be more secular.
There is an Islamic Fundamentalist movement in just about every other ME country, and in some cases, these countries' governments are based on the Koran.
This would seem to be against everything the Leftists stand for.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20892 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:46 am to
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So what is the statute of limitations for military conquests?


When did Israel conquer Jerusalem?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:48 am to
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If you look at the history, I don’t see how anyone could come to the conclusion that the Palestinians are a victim.
It would be interesting to hear your specific thoughts( tightly edited, to avoid excessive length, of course). Many Palestinians are forced to live in pretty shitty circumstances.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:49 am to
I don’t give two shits about either, but we GIVE the Israelis about 50 billion a year in cash and military equipment.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:53 am to
There is plenty on the history of Palestine and Israel. Put some effort on reading as much as you can about the ongoing conflict. Don't skip the part on the USS Liberty, or LBJ's reluctance to do anything about it because of his backwoods belief in the mythical "chosen people". To my knowledge, its the only time the US has ignored an act of war.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19066 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:53 am to
Because they be baby killing demonic servants of Satan.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17710 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:57 am to
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can think more on there own than people on the right.



You don't say ? Well I guess for a Collegedropout you should quit thinking for yourself, it's not your strong suit.
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:01 am to
Never in the history of the world has there been a country called Palestine or a nationality known as Palestinians. This is a made up group originated b Arafat and his cronies to serve as the victims of the "Israel Occupation". The left has taken this myth (like most of the other policy and agenda items they support) and attempted to re-write history to make people believe that Palestine and the country called Palestine actually existing.

It is a myth. Ask yourself one question to understand who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in this dispute:

If the Israelis dropped all weapons, disarmed and put their hands up and asked for peace, what would happen to the?

If the Arabs dropped all weapons, disarmed and put their hands up and asked for peace, what would happen to them?

Which group do you think we be slaughtered while their hands were up? Your answer to this scenario tells you everything you need to know.

Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13536 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:02 am to
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quote:
Collegedropout


You have issues


Well he is a dropout...
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:03 am to
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Many Palestinians are forced to live in pretty shitty circumstances.


Only by the PLO and other Arab operatives. No "Palestinian" currently in Israel aside from those in jail are forced to live or stay in the country.
Posted by MajorTaylor
Member since Aug 2017
217 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:30 am to
"Nazis don't like Jews."


Historically, American Conservatives don't like Jews.

Antisemitism is still found mostly in racism’s historic home: on the right.

The antipathy of Trump and his supporters towards "the mainstream media" is descended from antisemitism, from antipathy towards "the jew-run media". ( the "MSM" or "Lib-media" is today still heavily populated by Jews. ) The narrative on the political Right was that the media was all owned, operated, and populated by Jews who operated as a "cabal" to manipulate lives, maintain and expand Jewish power and control, and issue a false narrative or "fake" narrative.

Once it became unacceptable for Conservatives to condemn "the jew-run media" they switched to condemning "the liberal media" or "Lib-run media". Trump has replaced "Lib-run media" with "fake media". But when Trump blasts the “fake media,” anti-Semites hear “Jewish-controlled media,” which they believe exerts disproportionate power over other media outlets and public opinion.

Trump booster Alex Jones blames America’s ills on “the Jewish mafia.” Jones listed a series of prominent people with Jewish backgrounds he believed to be working with this mafia — Rahm Emanuel, Madeleine Albright, George Soros — and accused them of being part of a “global, corporate combine”:

LINK

Charles Coughlin- 1930's RW radio figure who was the forerunner of Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Levin. He expressed sympathy for the fascist policies of Hitler and Mussolini, as an antidote to Bolshevism. His weekly radio broadcasts became suffused with themes regarded as overtly antisemitic. He blamed the Depression on an international conspiracy of Jewish bankers. In 1938 Coughlin and two thousand of his supporters protested potential asylum law changes that would allow more Jews into the US, chanting, "Send Jews back where they came from in leaky boats!". ( they wanted a "Jew-ban" like Trump's "muslim-ban" of today. ) Coughlin began supporting an organization called the Christian Front, which claimed him as an inspiration. In January, 1940, the Christian Front was shut down when the FBI discovered the group was arming itself and "planning to murder Jews, communists, and 'a dozen Congressmen'.

Liberty Lobby- The Liberty Lobby was a political advocacy organization which was founded in 1955 by Willis Carto in 1955. Liberty Lobby was founded as a conservative political organization and was known to hold strongly antisemitic views and to be a devotee of the writings of Francis Parker Yockey, who was one of a handful of post-World War II writers who revered Adolf Hitler. Liberty Lobby attempted to promote a public image of being a conservative anti-Communist group, along the lines of the John Birch Society, but while the John Birch Society publicly rejected white supremacy and antisemitism, Liberty Lobby promoted them.

Then there was the antisemitism of William F. Buckley and Richard Nixon.

Anti-media, anti-immigration, white supremacy, anti-Liberalism, anti-Communism and anti-semitism are interconnected. Among Trump support there is a strong anti-media / anti-immigrant strain. Segregationist Conservative George Wallace railed against a "left-wing media", like Trump today made the liberal media a frequent target, and made many of the same arguments regarding the media as does Trump- that the liberal media prevented Conservatives from having their voice heard and were all in cahoots to lie about Conservatives, push fake news, and promote the liberal agenda.

Trump has long played on racism against African-Americans, racism against Hispanics, and bigotry against Muslims to attract white supremacists. He does the same when he demonizes the media.

The president is deploying, consciously or not, a classic trope from the Russian anti-Semitic fabrication, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, published in 1905.

Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:30 am to
Not an argument, ****
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:36 am to
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Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over Israel?

They are blinded from the truth
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6772 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:44 am to
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George Soros is Jewish
and also collaborated with the Nazis during WWII
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:46 am to
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When I don't have an argument to make,


You haven't made an argument
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:49 am to
Sure I have. I've posted the same link 3 times in the past 2 days and nobody has responded over a single point it made.
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:49 am to
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Why do many on the left support the Palestinians over Israel?


Because TV told them to.
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:50 am to
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Antisemitism is still found mostly in racism’s historic home: on the right.


You lost all credibility with that comment, if you had any in the first place. Racism's "historic home" is, has always been and continues to be the Democratic party and the left.

Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:55 am to
So you are an Abe Lincoln man?
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