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Why do dirty cops only get suspended for flock violations?

Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:10 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
99759 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:10 pm
They should all be fired on the spot then jailed.

Five in the same week. Da fuq blue?

If nothing of mention happens to you, of course they will continue to abuse it. It’s infuriating
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8671 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:15 pm to
Actual accountability would upset the state's imbalance of power.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5790 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:15 pm to
Police unions, unfortunately.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92855 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:46 pm to
Life in prison(or worse) should be the result when a police officer takes this power and abuses it to commit a crime.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12764 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:53 pm to

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On the heels of the recent Supreme Court ruling on geofencing and how that violates the Fourth Amendment, a US district judge has now ruled that tower dump warrants also violates the Fourth Amendment. As a reminder, the Supreme Court ruled that your location data is protected by the Fourth Amendment.

That means the police cannot just pull your phone information via GPS without a warrant because it's considered a search, citing Carpenter v. United States

This Mississippi judge is essentially calling out police for using a loophole to still grab similar data from people and is trying to close it by saying that these tower dump warrants are too general because it still grabs your location data, which is therefore subject to probable cause and more specific warrants because it's considered a search which is protected by the Fourth Amendment.

The Supreme Court's ruling could potentially be setting Flock up for violating the same thing because Flock had previously leaned on Carpenter v. United States to claim that they are constitutionally protected and allowed to surveil and store people's data the way that they do.

But that was before the Supreme Court's recent ruling.”

“As much as there seems to be an uptick in surveillance systems and the digital panopticon being built around us, it also seems like there is a growing opposition towards all of this, and it seems to be quite effective”

Flock even on their own website sites Carpenter v. United States as justification to why they are constitutionally allowed to operate and collected their digital data

But now the Supreme Court is expanding digital data protection rights

Ban Flock Cameras from America
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
99759 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Police unions, unfortunately.


It’s got to be against public policy. Plus if you and I did that, we’d rot in jail for 10 years. But someone a slap on the wrist for the cops.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5790 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:31 pm to
Doesn’t matter. The sheriff or chief doesn’t have union protection but the cops and deputies do. If you read the article you shared it says some were suspended pending investigation. Their union gets notified and they get representation during the process. It’s bullshite.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60770 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:35 pm to
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The Supreme Court may take down Flock Cameras and the entire surveillance state being built because it violates the 4th Amendment

yeah right


acb has to protect all her haitian adopted children



ETA: even though we've seen repeatedly that facial recognition technology doesn't work on crime people and only is able to identify white people
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 8:37 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42981 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Police unions, unfortunately.

This is a huge part of it. Also, state and federal courts are often loaded with judges who were former prosecutors who had a working relationship with police. In this area, cops often get deals regular civilians would never sniff.
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
2443 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:24 pm to
Flock is private company that your pos gov has tried to hide from you for you be be tracked.

When you get the ability to run shite (ie:DLs, plates) thru NCIC thats not the same access and the repercussions are different. They should be more harsh but the police, police the police,for the most part.

Played the game.

The system is broken and cannot be fixed.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1344 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:54 pm to
The standard is that the flock cameras don't collect anything that a human in the Right of Way (ROW) of roadways could not collect.

However, the difference is that a free citizen could be arrested for loitering, illegal camping, etc. while collecting the data if they were to do so in person. Citizens also are not permitted to set up remote devices in the ROW without permission from the ROW owner.

This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176065 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:56 pm to
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Actual accountability would upset the state's imbalance of power.

Seems to apply to all levels of government also
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
8136 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:35 am to
Thin blue line bs.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 8:43 am
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
5066 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:01 am to
how does one know that a cop is abusing a flock camera data? i wonder what triggers an investigation? who complains?
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
2443 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:11 am to
Internal audits that most depts do not do.

When an audit(by the dept itself) is done and the officer has ran the same plate numerous times it lesds to questions of why and what is being or has been investigated.

The layers of onion are then peeled back.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
5066 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:10 am to
i have noticed one has gone up in the subdivision i live in. the camera faces the vehicles leaving the subdivision. and i live in a very quiet subdivision or so i thought. is, read plates all these cameras do?
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:13 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10885 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:19 am to
Does anyone know what distance these cameras can see accurately?
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
2443 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:50 am to
No. It identifies dents, stickers, etc. on said vehicle.

Depending on the type of FLOCK camera it is some now are PTZ (pan tilt zoom) that is controlled by AI that collects way more information even to the point of facial recognition. These are called Condor cameras.

Posted by Breauxsif
Washington
Member since May 2012
23696 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:11 am to
Internal IT departments log every single query with user credentials, time stamps, and search parameters, digital forensics make the act easy to catch. However, turning a data log into a prosecutable criminal case requires building a solid file to present to a district attorney, it should be prosecuted as malfeasance of office at the federal level, administrative penalties are a joke. The cops know what they were doing was wrong by misusing Flock and should be terminated and federally prosecuted.
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