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re: Why did myself & so many others believe illegal immigrants received benefits?

Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24469 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Multiple studies have found


Who exactly funds these “studies”? Where do you get all of these "facts" about taxes?

Are you stupid enough to believe that illegal immigration isn’t an incredible net fiscal AND SOCIETAL drain on this country? Seriously nobody could be that fricking stupid.

sounds like you’re a far left whackjob who just looks for “studies“ and “facts“ (paid for by far left interest groups) that support your political ideology.
Posted by Herschal
USA
Member since Sep 2011
2210 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:53 pm to
Brevity baw.

We don’t have time to read why you are clueless.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:54 pm to
Your statement about not abusing the medical system is flat out ignorant and inaccurate. I deal with it quite frequently
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:54 pm to
Didn’t Read Chuck
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1915 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:55 pm to
Let's see 63.5% of the new births in LA
Are Medicaid.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
77241 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:55 pm to
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Why did myself & so many others believe illegal immigrants received benefits?by Craig86


Why did YOURSELF choose this?

How about, 'Why did I and... Damn

Now, on topic...I couldn't get past this dumb shite grammar.

Sorry, I know y'all wanted myselfs opinion.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2402 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:59 pm to
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For fiscal year 2023, the spending was about $3.8 billion


Do you think we are stupid?

LINK

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The $9.5-billion price tag of California’s state-sponsored healthcare for undocumented immigrants is already more than $3 billion above the budget estimate from last summer and is expected to grow.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:59 pm to
Do you understand that when these illegals come here and squeeze out a kid the kid qualifies for medicaid?

We have a well developed welfare system and there are BILLIONS of third worlders who would love to come get a piece of our welfare pie.

The system we, de facto, had in place more or less worked. The feds would raid a few workplaces to raise awareness and slow the flow when necessary. We had an inflow of cheap labor. And nothing was ever really fixed so both parties could use illegals as a cudgel to beat each other.

Then dim-commies decided to flood the country to get perpetual control. Thank God for Donald Trump!


Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21213 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:00 pm to
You sold me. Illegal immigrants are a credit to society. That’s exactly why we need to be generous and send them all home to build up their own native country. The US shouldn’t hog all the best citizens in the world. Let’s be kind and return them home.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:01 pm to
So nobody has any facts to link to or anything? " I deal with it regularly" & "just walk into a "x" and you'll see" are not facts.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2949 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:01 pm to
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Then dim-commies decided to flood the country to get perpetual control.


Also recommending that you read up on Proposition 187.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17294 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:04 pm to
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Many undocumented workers have taxes withheld from their paychecks using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)


Those are granted to legal immigrants with work visas, etc.

Illegals, who by definition are not here legally, don’t have ITINs but they steal other people’s social security numbers or use dead people’s so that when they get their paychecks their employers are paying their payroll taxes. Worse, is if these people are using their identity thieved SSNs to file tax returns so they can get “refunds.”

They send their kids to public schools, go to ERs to give birth or when they have a toothache and all manner of shite, and if they actually get a bill someone else pays it bc the hospital just passes that along by charging people $400 for an Aspirin and shite.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:04 pm to
I'm sure most of you are adults here, I know you don't believe this stuff. There's no way that you believe that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes and don't commit lower crime than the average American. All you have to do is look it up and you can see that that's incorrect.

I vote with facts, not my feelings.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:05 pm to
What you just said about ITIN's is absolutely false.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:06 pm to
The fact is they still only cost .4% of Medicaid due to Emergency Medicaid
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
8051 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:07 pm to
maga doesn't like to be shown facts.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34262 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Why did myself & so many others believe illegal immigrants received benefits?

Lulz
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The 14 states that currently provide health coverage to undocumented migrants are California, New York, Illinois, Washington, New Jersey, Oregon, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Colorado, Connecticut, Utah, Rhode Island, Maine and Vermont. Washington, D.C., does likewise.

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Five states have programs that provide nutrition assistance to immigrants who are not eligible for coverage under the federally funded Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), formerly known as the Food Stamp Program.

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Are immigrants eligible for state benefit programs?

In some states, yes. Twenty-six states make immigrants eligible for state-funded benefit programs. Most of these states either offer assistance to families or provide access to healthcare to otherwise uninsured immigrants. Examples of these programs are New York’s Safety Net Assistance, California’s CalFresh Food Assistance Program, and California’s Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI)

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Thirty-five states and the District of Columbia have passed Universal Free School Meals. All students within the state can eat two meals for no charge per day
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157786 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:08 pm to
You vote for whomever has the D beside their name.

And nothing you posted changes that they came here illegally. You just don’t care like all democrats.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
2311 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:08 pm to
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So nobody has any facts to link to or anything? " I deal with it regularly" & "just walk into a "x" and you'll see" are not facts.
I’m the son of a once illegal immigrant. Does that count?

Yes, wife deals with it regularly in the ER. Has to use a translator app.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55529 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Too many words. They have been getting benefits and you are a moron if you think otherwise!

Definitely NOT too many words. The guy did a good job laying out many facts. But you are right that they have been getting benefits, starting with USAID money to get them to our border, across our border, and into housing. Then their children become citizens, and periodically the government gives amnesty and they become citizens.

But make no mistake about it, illegal immigration has been a net positive for our overall economy. Where it has been a problem is that it has served to drive down labor prices, thus increasing the gap between laborers and the managerial class.
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