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re: Why are we surprised that America is becoming more liberal?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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It takes a bit of arrogance to say "well we have hit peak humanity. STOP TRYING TO IMPROVE THINGS"
In your mind, transgenderism and all of the ungodly abominations equals progress. It's an improvement.
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:34 am to Revelator
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Did we think generations of liberal education in public schools and universities, plus years of liberal indoctrination from social media and news media would never show up in voting patterns?
Im not surprised at all. My main political concern is moving forward practically. Its why traditional conservative politics is pretty much dead to me. You can be crushed standing on your ideals or choose a more practical path
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:34 am to Flats
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One side wants to stick to a formula that clearly works
Tell me the date where you believe we should have stopped.
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You can keep trying to equate them to the side that wants to ignore human nature and history but you'll keep being wrong.
You are failing to realize that a less developed point in history will almost assuredly say this about your date given above.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:35 am to Snipe
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Which is why liberalism is described as societal cancer
Most humans arent capable of self governing yet. Utopians are usually people who live sheltered lives away from the dysfunction they deny exists.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:35 am to BCreed1
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In your mind, transgenderism and all of the ungodly abominations equals progress.
No.
Why make shite up like that other guy?
Why can't you rely on your own arguments instead of inventions?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:36 am to BCreed1
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In your mind, transgenderism and all of the ungodly abominations equals progress.
There is nothing organic about this movement, its forced.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:FIFY
it starts to look at how to improve things and that's where liberalism comes in to try to DESTROY everything instead.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Developed societies pretty much have always become more liberal in the history of humanity.
Right before they are destroyed and a new one takes its place.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Developed societies pretty much have always become more liberal in the history of humanity.
It's what humans do.
You mean like Rome in 476?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:38 am to GusAU
Prosperous societies eventually fall to liberalism.
The transition back to conservatism is a lot harder and more painful.
The transition back to conservatism is a lot harder and more painful.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:38 am to Flashback
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You mean like Rome in 476?
Its a fair point. We're becoming to soft, and harder people will one day prevail.
To deny this is denying history.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
Narrow that down a bit to post war modern progressivism.
Teddy Roosevelt saw himself as a Progressive, but I doubt he would identify with modern day progressives.
Teddy Roosevelt saw himself as a Progressive, but I doubt he would identify with modern day progressives.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Tell me the date where you believe we should have stopped.
Stop being dishonest. This is what I said:
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That doesn't mean they believe it's perfect, but they're much more cautious about wholesale changes and rightfully so.
"Stopped" does not appear there, either in word or concept. But if I had to draw a line it would be well before an unqualified Secretary of Transportation was celebrated for larping in a hospital bed with his queer partner and adopted baby.
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You are failing to realize that a less developed point in history will almost assuredly say this about your date given above.
You dishonesty about date setting aside, you're failing to realize that at some point they'll be correct. I don't think you're stupid enough to believe that all change is positive but you've got plenty of bandwidth to prove me wrong.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:40 am to KiwiHead
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Teddy Roosevelt saw himself as a Progressive, but I doubt he would identify with modern day progressives.
Exactly. Some of the sentiment was the same (social reform) but they were relatively sane by todays progressive standards.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:40 am to scottydoesntknow
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My main political concern is moving forward practically. Its why traditional conservative politics is pretty much dead to me. You can be crushed standing on your ideals or choose a more practical path
Yeah, the issue is the conservatives purchased the left's ideals in
- Separation of Church and State, and that was a snowball effect. No prayer in schools etc...
- The teaching of leaders in the church that allowed it to creep in.
- The idea that we must take it... BE QUIET! We are the silent Majority! Remember that?
Until we stand up and demand a return to the principles and draw a line in the sand that will not be crossed, we will continue to drift to the left.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:41 am to Purple Spoon
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The transition back to conservatism is a lot harder and more painful.
Ideology disappears in survival situations.
We're in the fat/happy phase when we can bitch about trivial things.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:41 am to KiwiHead
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Teddy Roosevelt saw himself as a Progressive, but I doubt he would identify with modern day progressives.
“first they steal the words, then they steal the meaning” - 1984
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:43 am to Revelator
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generations of liberal education in public schoo
My scholastic years were 1979-1992, LSU 92-96, LSUMC 96-97 and SELU 97-99.
I was NEVER taught ANY of the stupid shite libs preach.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Your words are constantly suggesting it. I use YOUR words, not mine.
It's constant in every thread you poke your head in to comment. You promote under a facade that nobody but Roger is buying.
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It takes a bit of arrogance to say "well we have hit peak humanity. STOP TRYING TO IMPROVE THINGS"
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One side wants to stick to a formula that clearly works
Tell me the date where you believe we should have stopped.
It's constant in every thread you poke your head in to comment. You promote under a facade that nobody but Roger is buying.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:44 am to Flats
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Stop being dishonest. This is what I said:
I'm not being dishonest. When do you believe we should have stopped?
You said "One side wants to stick to a formula that clearly works." in response to my comments about society moving "back and forth"
The back and the forth part "clearly work", but also go too far (leading to a response in the other direction).
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That doesn't mean they believe it's perfect, but they're much more cautious about wholesale changes and rightfully so.
Even leftism today is incremental and not a wholesale change, really.
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you're failing to realize that at some point they'll be correct.
While likely being incorrect about a lot of other things.
This is a dynamic and fluid part of society. The point is trying to discuss it in such static means is going to lead to the absurdity you're trying to avoid.
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I don't think you're stupid enough to believe that all change is positive
What part about "back and forth" argues that "all change is positive"?
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