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re: Why are Nazi’s labeled far right

Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
My basic understanding is that the "left" believes in big government, and the "right" believes in states rights and minimal federal government. Seems to me that the Nazi's were more of "big government" types...in fact they would kill you if you didn't support the national government. Not sure I'd call them "far right"....
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
Forget about the subtle differences in their economic approach.

All you need to remember is that they are both full blown authoritarians.

Posted by JPinLondon
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:41 pm to
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NAZI is an acronym for the Nationalist Socialists Workers Party. The key word being "Nationalist"

YOU ARE A frickING LIAR!!!!

That bullshite is exactly how the Left acts. Install a subtle lie and let it set until it becomes true.

There is a MASSIVE difference between "National" and "Nationalist" and you know that!

Unless you think the Nationalist Air and Space Museum is a thing!


ETA: even more importantly, the key word is SOCIALIST
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
The Democrats are the real Nazis!!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
They privatized most major industries in Germany that were actually previously state run.

They were socialists in the sense that they pushed everyone to put the nation first but they also felt the best way to do that was have private industry just but in.

Nazi Capitalists did well in Nazi Germany.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:44 pm to
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Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:45 pm to
I believe ultimate power rested with der fuhrer.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
Foundations of Nazi party:

1) class warfare
2) destruction of capitalism
3) nationalization of healthcare, education, industry, transportation
4) attack on religion
5) gun control
6) encouraging abortion, pornography, illegitimacy

The list goes on. Those are are extreme left-wing ideologies. The reason people argue for them being right wing is because of the fascist traits of suppression of opposition, authoritarianism, and imperialism

Honestly, the Nazi party is kind of in its own space on the political spectrum IMO
Posted by Heyes
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
The beliefs at that time were that Marxism would take over everywhere as soon as they heard of the greatness of it When no other countries began to overthrow their governments ... Mussolini in Italy began to use the black shirts to help him overthrow the government. In Germany it was the brown shirts . Mussolini actually got a letter from Lenin congratulating him and applauding his wonderful government . A magazine of that time actually praised FDR as being one of them , while the u s government sent emissaries to Italy to see if we could learn anything from them .

After w w 2 , with the atrocities committed by the nazis , the left In this country had to distance themselves in every way from the Left over there , so they began to teach fascism as being on the right . But the policies are all leftist. National socialists. Leftists .

Why did the nazis fight the communists of Russia. ? Hitler hated the Bolsheviks . Sunni and Shia Muslims fight all the time also Even though they believe 99 percent of the same things

This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:49 pm to
Because when their socialist heroes take power they will be much more tolerant of others views than the nazis. They don’t hate like the nazis. When they try to disarm everyone, it will be to protect us against ourselves, and not to consolidate absolute power with no opposition.
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
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DemProgFilthShitLibs

You sound so smart
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
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They called themselves socialist due to the general appeal of social democracy and communism at the time, but it doesn't mean that they were socialist, just as countries such as North Korea and East Germany have "Democratic" in their names yet utterly lack democracy.

Go take a look at Nazi hatred of communism, trade unionism, and liberalism, and their strong belief in blood and soil nationalism, the appeals to the mythic past, and belief in one people/one leader/one nation appeals resemble the right-wing parties like the AfD in Germany, Fidesz in Hungary


What you are not does not define who you are. I hate progressives, but that doesn’t make me a Christian conservative.

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
To Leftists, Nazis = Racists and Far Right = Racists, thus Nazis = Far Right.

Racism is their only card.

Nevermind logic that Nazis = Socialists = Leftists. It's not in the cards.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11281 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:52 pm to
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"frick you, you fricking Nazi. We need a national socialist party to burn these capitalists pigs."

That is literally the left today


And they are called Anarchists when they actually want totalitarian government.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
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6) encouraging abortion, pornography, illegitimacy



lmao what
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
Hitler was assigned to spy on the socialists and he spied on them alright. He liked what they were saying and threw in with them and became their leader.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37281 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:59 pm to
Because the Left thinks every minority and sub group is = to the Jewish in terms of treatment. Therefore, Holocaust on everyone. Therefore Conservatives = Hitler.

It's pretty simple minded, but this why. That dichotomy is the easiest representation of evil for people to comprehend, so the Left sees everything that way.

Remember, we were just talking about Concentration Camps, again, before Trump was elected.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58762 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 4:01 pm to
Oh boy. This thread again.
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 4:03 pm to
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LSUFreek

The man himself?
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