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Posted on 6/24/20 at 4:55 pm to Tigahhs97
Same way the Democrats that founded the KKK, Jim Crow, etc, are really republicans.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 4:58 pm to Tigahhs97
Hitler is a world wide recognized boogeymen. The left uses that as part of their bizarro world strategy to pin it on conservatives.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:12 pm to 14&Counting
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NAZI is an acronym for the Nationalist Socialists Workers Party. The key word being "Nationalist"
Do you believe there is anybody here dumb enough to believe this obvious lie? I’m mean really? This is the bullshite everyone is sick of. fricking clown
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:15 pm to Philzilla2k
Philzilla2k I guess your going to leave out the part were by 1922 the Nazi Party and Comummuist Party were are total war with each other and most of the Nazi party was made up of mostly Freikorps veterans. See Freikorps Epp for it's member list of 1919. Ernst Röhm, Rudolf Hess, Eduard Dietl, Hans Frank, Gregor Strasser and Otto Strasser were all members of The Epps Krops, all were left of center. Even the Army had to support these korps for fear that the Reds would take over Germany.
Hitler once placed in the spy game by the Army saw the small party as a place he could take over and control.
This is no way does that change the NAZI party was a left wing group, as they wanted the same overall goal of control by any means and in the Red party they were nothing, see Hitler as 3rd alt in his company in 1919.
To show you how messed up party lines are in the early 1920's in Germany even the National Bolsheviks — Led by Ernst Niekisch is called a Right-wing party. That is only one of near 10 left wing parties in Germany called right wing at the time.
Hitler once placed in the spy game by the Army saw the small party as a place he could take over and control.
This is no way does that change the NAZI party was a left wing group, as they wanted the same overall goal of control by any means and in the Red party they were nothing, see Hitler as 3rd alt in his company in 1919.
To show you how messed up party lines are in the early 1920's in Germany even the National Bolsheviks — Led by Ernst Niekisch is called a Right-wing party. That is only one of near 10 left wing parties in Germany called right wing at the time.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:18 pm to TigerDoc
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Go take a look at Nazi hatred of communism, trade unionism, and liberalism
Stalin hated liberalism and his COMINTERN street fighters, Antifa, spent as much time attacking them as they did National Socialists. Formerly Communist youth flocked to Hitler.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:19 pm to tigger1
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To show you how messed up party lines are in the early 1920's in Germany even the National Bolsheviks — Led by Ernst Niekisch is called a Right-wing party. That is only one of near 10 left wing parties in Germany called right wing at the time.
In the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Shirer calls the Nazi's the far right as I recall, which describes the era you mention.
I'm for calling these "protesters"/todays Democrars Bolsheviks as it fits fairly well.
Or just throw the Nazi thing back at them as their tactics are just the same as what the Brownshirts used in the 20's.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:19 pm to tigger1
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Philzilla2k I guess your going to leave out the part were by 1922 the Nazi Party and Comummuist Party were are total war with each other and most of the Nazi party was made up of mostly Freikorps veterans.
I guess you are a big fricking idiot who doesn’t know how to read
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National Socialist opposed communist and Social Democrats, hence if these two German political movements were leftist, National Socialist would be on the opposite end of the political spectrum.
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In a speech given in Munich on 12 April 1922, Hitler stated: There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to dissociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! for it will lead us to complete destruction – to Bolshevism, or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power – that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago."
Try to read all the way to the end, I know it’s hard, but it will be worth it, you stupid fricking retard
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:22 pm to Auburn1968
Yes, Nazis and communists both don't like liberals and both don't like each other. The Nazis took their membership from across the German political spectrum.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:28 pm to Philzilla2k
Clearly Hitler is just buying into leftist media about Nazis.
You can have terrible leftist movements and terrible right wing movements. Generally one leads to the other rising up.
If Nikolai II buys into the same kind of classical liberalism literally every other monarch in the west was buying into, who knows what happens but people generally are rushing to depose figure heads.
You can have terrible leftist movements and terrible right wing movements. Generally one leads to the other rising up.
If Nikolai II buys into the same kind of classical liberalism literally every other monarch in the west was buying into, who knows what happens but people generally are rushing to depose figure heads.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:28 pm to TigerDoc
Compared to communism they were “right”. They associate it with Republicans because of the nationalism part of it. However, nationalism does not have to correlate with a particular economic system.
So basically you could call Democrats Nazis for being socialists or conservatives Nazis for being nationalist. Neither is particularly accurate and the use of the word is inflammatory in either case.
So basically you could call Democrats Nazis for being socialists or conservatives Nazis for being nationalist. Neither is particularly accurate and the use of the word is inflammatory in either case.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:29 pm to Tigahhs97
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:30 pm to Heyes
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Why did the nazis fight the communists of Russia. ? Hitler hated the Bolsheviks .
That and Lebensraum (living space).
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:31 pm to VoxDawg
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Most lefty windowlickers don't understand that Nazi was "National Socialist Party," anyway.
You all probably think that North Korea is a democratic republic as well.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:00 am to Philzilla2k
Philzilla2k
Actually I have over 50 books on the years of 1918-1925 Germany.
The fact that they call all these groups right wing is only because they are nationalist.
The open warfare on the streets in Germany was against the Bolshevism who were backed by and controlled by the Red parties outside of Germany.
The list of the outside backed communist groups of the revolution:
Spartacus League
Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany
Communist Party of Germany
Bavarian Soviet Republic
People's State of Bavaria
Bremen Soviet Republic
Soviet Republic of Saxony
Alsace Soviet Republic
Revolutionary Stewards
The main force fighting them Social Democratic Party of Germany and the Germany Army is supporting the FreiKrops.
The years of 1918-1923 Germany there are many groups trying to gain control of Germany, the Nazi party is a small group of under 25,000 (they reached the 25k membership mark in 1925), all of these groups goals for the people and improving the lifestyle of the common people is one of the top goals.
Actually I have over 50 books on the years of 1918-1925 Germany.
The fact that they call all these groups right wing is only because they are nationalist.
The open warfare on the streets in Germany was against the Bolshevism who were backed by and controlled by the Red parties outside of Germany.
The list of the outside backed communist groups of the revolution:
Spartacus League
Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany
Communist Party of Germany
Bavarian Soviet Republic
People's State of Bavaria
Bremen Soviet Republic
Soviet Republic of Saxony
Alsace Soviet Republic
Revolutionary Stewards
The main force fighting them Social Democratic Party of Germany and the Germany Army is supporting the FreiKrops.
The years of 1918-1923 Germany there are many groups trying to gain control of Germany, the Nazi party is a small group of under 25,000 (they reached the 25k membership mark in 1925), all of these groups goals for the people and improving the lifestyle of the common people is one of the top goals.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:16 am to Tigahhs97
Politics isn’t a spectrum it’s a circle. Eventually you go so far right you’re left and vice versa.
It’s that bottom part of the circle that’s extreme authoritarianism no matter the label you give it.
It’s that bottom part of the circle that’s extreme authoritarianism no matter the label you give it.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:06 am to TejasHorn
Yes TejasHorn, that is why control should be the measuring stick of politics.
Not the left wing, right wing scale taught for a long time in the US school system.
Not the left wing, right wing scale taught for a long time in the US school system.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 6:21 am to Tigahhs97
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Why are Nazi’s labeled far right
because you have always been lied to..
leftists have always murdered those that do not agree with them.
allways.
correct my if i'm wrong..
but werent the jews of germany the conservative business owners. the merchant class of that time?
we simply saw first hand what the nazis did.
the commies in russia and china never faced justice for their atrocities
there is no difference what the left did in nazi germany, commie russia and commie china.
nothing.
all were deplorable and a shame to our planet.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 6:30 am to TigerintheNO
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Nazism started as opposition to communism which is far left.
National socialism was fighting globalist communism.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 6:40 am to Tigahhs97
Nazi’s are Leftest and Democrats are Socialist/Communists. Liberals are pussies and have mental disorders. Another words they are also democrats.
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