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re: Why all of the mass shootings now, and not back when?

Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to
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The continual pretense that pistols aren't used for the vast majority of gun deaths is maddening.



majority of gun deaths are suicides then black on black crime last i checked.

CNN wants you to think white middle class men are the worst killers and responsible for all gun deaths and crimes.

guns are nowhere near the top of the list of causes of death either.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59717 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:01 pm to
“Back in the 1960s we had way more mass shootings, bombings and violent bank robberies.”



Fake news
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
962 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:02 pm to
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The first "modern" mass shooting was Charles Whitman in 1966 on the UT campus. Mental illness is what drove him to do what he did. Then you had the Columbine shooters in 1999 that set off a string of school shootings that have continued almost unabated for the last 25 years.




I know. I remember watching the movie as a kid that was shot in BR at the state capital building, but it was far from being epidemic, which is why it was so shocking to everyone. Today it seems as if there is no end to it. It happens with regularity


Wouldn't say regularly. 350 million people and what 6 school shootings in a year? It seems these things are blasted everywhere for shriek effect. Think about how many are shot every day in Chicago or Saint Louise. Many of them done by teenagers mostly Black. They are allowed to act that way because it is ok for young Blacks to murder each other. The answer would be to enforce the law but it ain't happening.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Why now, and not back then if nothing has changed with people or culture?

The answer is in your question. Our “culture” has changed- dramatically. As our resident board atheists PROUDLY proclaim: “America is not a Christian nation.” What we are experiencing is the direct result of the abandonment of objective moral standards and values (given to us by Christianity) that Made America Great- the first time.

No man made system of governance can fix this. The only thing that can fix this is an en masse return to obedience to the objective moral principles, and submission to the Moral Law Giver. That’s not going to happen. So…

Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
1754 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:41 pm to
They are all copy cats of a preceding one in a never ending cycle. Every single one of them. Pic unrelated.

Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3364 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:02 pm to
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There was an honor code back then. Fight with fists. Usually afterwards the fighters became friends.


I'm probably about as old as you, because that's how I made some of my best friends.

Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3271 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:13 pm to
The damnation of society.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
931 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Why now, and not back then if nothing has changed with people or culture?



Everything has changed with people and culture. Most of us, assuming you mean Gen Xers and earlier, grew up with a healthy amount of respect for adults and authority. We also come from families that made us go to church, or at least had somewhat of a Christian background, and learned that killing would send you straight to hell.

We could have a ton of guns in gunracks in the High School parking lot back then and nobody even thought about shooting up a school. If we got super pissed, it was going to end up in a fist fight and that was as far as it went..

Now, a ton of people openly have no faith, don't believe in Christianity, and half the country doesn't want law and order, unless they can control the police force, and they want to defund the police we have now.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
2470 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:35 pm to
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The first "modern" mass shooting was Charles Whitman in 1966 on the UT campus. Mental illness is what drove him to do what he did. Then you had the Columbine shooters in 1999 that set off a string of school shootings that have continued almost unabated for the last 25 years.


Human beings indulge in copycat behavior.

There were mass shootings and school shootings, but in the era before cable tv news it was just one story among many, not something that took over for the entire day. Consequently, you don't remember them as much... and the shooters were not awarded the same focus and publicity...and a thing that drives these people is being noticed and remembered.

We have shootings here because we have guns everywhere.

In the UK and Asia, it happens with knives and swords...

the profile is mostly the exact same: either a young male (teens, maybe early 20s) or an older (middle-age or above) who feels unfairly maligned or ignored. Some psychologist think it is the "biological imperative" gone haywire, that these guys think their chances of reproducing are zero so they want to eliminate the possibility for others, too.

What Motivates School Shooters?
The deviant desire for publicity and other school shooter commonalities.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10945 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:05 pm to
Because of the advent of gun free zones, soft target were created
Posted by Sailjuggernaut
Member since Jan 2024
126 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:36 am to
Every country is what is it due to it's culture. Some are good, some are bad. The liberal culture of Hollywood, music industry, media, and the rest of the liberals are the reason for such turmoil, and chaos. The lack of shame in our society compare to 30-40 years ago is astounding. Youngsters are taught disrespect while not taught to have discipline. Social media has accelerated this and the result is what we have today.
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
1052 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:51 am to
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Why now, and not back then if nothing has changed with people or culture?


If you dont read, listen to the audio book.



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:55 am to
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I know the answer too: glorification and huge increase in mental illnesses. Now at first I don’t blame the media for being obsessed with the shooters at Columbine, but since then psychopaths have tried to one up one another to get the most glorified kill count and image that they possibly can.

By the time of the South Carolina shooter though, the media knew better and why these shootings were actually happening. They’re now active accomplices in these mass shootings. The media is evil and wants this to continue for their own ego and ratings.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:57 am to
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Humanizing the Columbine shooters was one of the worst mistakes the media made.


Yeah, this was an understandable mistake at the time, but by the 2010s they knew better. They would not shut the frick up about the SC shooter and pasted his images everywhere. He’s the only mass shooter I can tell you the name of unfortunately, and it just continued to inspire a bunch of other mass shooters. The media are active accomplices in this now.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14584 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:06 am to
And even if kids aren’t watching news programming, they are increasingly aware of the “school shooter” as a powerful character that people fear - a character that can exhibit a moment of dominance like a star that explodes…and then it dies.

It’s now a method to go out with a bang.

So what’s behind the decision to go out in an empowering moment is what we need to understand and address better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:41 am to
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, and it just continued to inspire a bunch of other mass shooters


Indeed. Troubled teens figuring out they can become famous just become copycats.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
39573 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:21 am to
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Why have most of us grown up in an America where there were just as many guns,

This premise is incorrect
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172382 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:26 am to
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Why now, and not back then if nothing has changed with people or culture?


There is a ton of political influence made it to divide the american people an purposefully anger them and their emotions strictly for control and political gain over issues that really don't even mean shite to politicians. People are manipulated more than ever now and aren't even aware of it. TRUTH.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
16135 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 am to
Too much time out, not enough arse whippings.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:29 am to
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Teachers have no authority over students.

the agendas put forth by school boards are an issue there.

I agree. I would go ahead and add the agenda of woke teacher's unions too.
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