re: Who was the MOST fiscally conservative POTUS in your lifetime?

That would be Newt Gingrich

Its a false claim to give any credit to Bill Clinton. As the chart below demonstrates, Clinton was a huge spender until Gingrich reigned him in after the '94 elections. Reminder Clinton was elected in '92




Then after 9/11 everything went south again

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Since our economy and society is smoke and mirrors propped up by worthless paper

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I like your post, but this quote is just not true. Our economy is substantial. We produce a tremendous amount, and we are the most productive people in the world (this is not just due to human capital but to infrastructure and law). The US is the second largest manufacturer in the world by more than twice #3. We produce far more technology than any other country, and we have the highest GDP. And our GDP is based much less on government spending than China, which is number two.

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He paid 11 billion dollars in Tax in 2021

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Was this the year he paid enough in taxes to singlehandedly fund, arm, and stock a state-of-the-art USN aircraft carrier? Maybe exaggerated, but I remember reading or hearing something along those lines

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You haven't learned simple english in those 65 years? You don't have much more time to get yourself right, Grandpa!

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well here's what i've learned boy how to stay married 41 years how long have you been married junior? i've learned how to raise two kids to adult hood, through college and launched into careers. how many adult children have raised jethrine? i've learned how to make enough money that i don't have to be worried about the price of gas and groceries. you needn't concern yourself about my heath, my dad lived to be 87 and i'm in much better shape than he was and my maternal grandfather lived to be 99.

I apologize for hurting your feelings when I insinuated that you were stupid...I thought you already knew!

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I apologize for hurting your feelings when I insinuated that you were stupid...I thought you already knew!

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you didn't hurt my feelings boy, because at the end of the day my actual life is my life and your life is your life. hows your real life? not your life on this website but your actual real life?

that's the only thing that matters.

are you one of the 63% of merican's that can't cover an unexpected $500 expense?

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let me help you understand something boy in a nation where the top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of all collected income taxes no one is actually fiscally conservative and that includes you jethro.

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The use of boy implies youth, perhaps you are the youth but I will refrain from calling you boy.

Here is an observation from someone older than yourself

My understanding of taxation is a bit older than yours. It is not if DJT is correct in preferring tariffs to taxation, it is more it is far out of date.

Prior to World War I, SCOTUS said income tax was unconstitutional. We were a smaller (and growing) country and tariffs alone no income tax was really needed. The massive debt from the war needed to be addressed, and tariffs alone would never cover it. Income Tax was termed "Patriotic" and Income Tax became the go to over tariffs.

Much has changed inside the USA since and outside the USA, and it is no longer the panacea of someone as old as DJT who would have grown up in a generation were his parents and grandparents views influenced his own.

Would be happy to debate taxes with you, but in a civil conversation more common with my youth when we were the UNITED States of America, not a house divide that I see today.

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here's the good news jethrine, my life is my actual life and your life is actually yours in my real life i'm 65 been married 41 years put two kids through college and last night my first grandchild was born. yesterday we just completed the finishing touches on the 70k renovation to my two upstairs bathrooms and my master bedroom would you like me to post pictures?

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you spent the day your first grandchild was born battling online and as always trying to convince everyone how wealthy you are?
that's the saddest thing i've ever read on here

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you didn't hurt my feelings boy,

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Looks like your messaging is improving a bit, did you get someone to help you?
And for God's sake quit calling me "boy". As a man of color, I do not appreciate that tone.

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let me help you understand something boy

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Jeez. What a dick lol