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Who was the MOST fiscally conservative POTUS in your lifetime?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:57 am
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:57 am
So many promise this when running, but do not do it when actually elected
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:02 am to Cheese Grits
Clinton for sure. Born in 88.
frick the left though especially the left beginning with Obama.
Trump is still better
frick the left though especially the left beginning with Obama.
Trump is still better
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:22 am to Cheese Grits
let me help you understand something boy in a nation where the top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of all collected income taxes no one is actually fiscally conservative and that includes you jethro.
our tax base has never been this narrow not since the adoption of the income tax.
our tax base has never been this narrow not since the adoption of the income tax.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:26 am to Cheese Grits
Gerald Ford
He would veto a bill, calling it a budget buster, but the Dems, having a super majority because of the Watergate scandal, would override the veto.
He would veto a bill, calling it a budget buster, but the Dems, having a super majority because of the Watergate scandal, would override the veto.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:32 am to Cheese Grits
It pains me to say this but it is Clinton.
“ Not because he was ideologically the most conservative president, but because by fiscal results he was the most fiscally conservative president of the last 50 years.
Under Clinton:
* The federal budget moved from deficit to surplus.
* The U.S. ran surpluses in fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
* The surplus peaked at about $236 billion in FY2000, equal to 2.3% of GDP.
* Federal outlays fell as a share of the economy, reaching about 17.7% of GDP in 2000–2001.
* Debt held by the public fell sharply as a share of GDP during his presidency; CBO and OMB historical data track this kind of debt and budget data across administrations.
The caveat is important: Clinton did not do this alone. He had a booming economy, the post-Cold War defense “peace dividend,” higher tax revenues, the 1993 tax increase, welfare reform, and, after 1994, a Republican Congress pressuring spending restraint. So the fairest formulation is:
“Bill Clinton, working with a Republican Congress, presided over the most fiscally conservative federal budget period of the last 50 years.”
If judging by rhetoric, Reagan or some Republicans might sound more fiscally conservative. But by actual deficits, spending restraint relative to GDP, and debt trajectory, Clinton wins.”
“ Not because he was ideologically the most conservative president, but because by fiscal results he was the most fiscally conservative president of the last 50 years.
Under Clinton:
* The federal budget moved from deficit to surplus.
* The U.S. ran surpluses in fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
* The surplus peaked at about $236 billion in FY2000, equal to 2.3% of GDP.
* Federal outlays fell as a share of the economy, reaching about 17.7% of GDP in 2000–2001.
* Debt held by the public fell sharply as a share of GDP during his presidency; CBO and OMB historical data track this kind of debt and budget data across administrations.
The caveat is important: Clinton did not do this alone. He had a booming economy, the post-Cold War defense “peace dividend,” higher tax revenues, the 1993 tax increase, welfare reform, and, after 1994, a Republican Congress pressuring spending restraint. So the fairest formulation is:
“Bill Clinton, working with a Republican Congress, presided over the most fiscally conservative federal budget period of the last 50 years.”
If judging by rhetoric, Reagan or some Republicans might sound more fiscally conservative. But by actual deficits, spending restraint relative to GDP, and debt trajectory, Clinton wins.”
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:43 am to dickkellog
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the top 10% of wage earners pay 70%
If an enemy could wipe out that 10%, America would be destroyed.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:44 am to dickkellog
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let me help you understand something boy in a nation where the top 10% of wage earners pay 70%
The top 1% of the wealthiest wage earners pay zero tax.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:48 am to Geekboy
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The caveat is important: Clinton did not do this alone. He had a booming economy, the post-Cold War defense “peace dividend,” higher tax revenues, the 1993 tax increase, welfare reform, and, after 1994, a Republican Congress pressuring spending restraint. So the fairest formulation is:
“Bill Clinton, working with a Republican Congress, presided over the most fiscally conservative federal budget period of the last 50 years.”
Came to post just this. After the 94 election, Bubba was forced to stay in check. At that time, the mixed Presidency/Congress was actually quite effective (as far as government goes).
Unfortunately, I don't think a mixed government would work nearly as well today, because it would just be a non-stop shite show battle, rather than the compromise that worked in Clinton's favor.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:53 am to CrystalPreserves
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The top 1% of the wealthiest wage earners pay zero tax.
no boy, the top 1% pay 40% of all collected income taxes.
can you imagine trying to fight WW2 in an era were 63% of americans pay no income tax.
you're a free loader boy, you're not pulling your weight you're no better than a welfare queen.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:57 am to dickkellog
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no boy, the top 1% pay 40% of all collected income taxes.
Elon is on track to be the world’s first trillionaire by 2027. You probably can’t wrap your Arkansas dropout brain around how much wealth that is. He hasn’t paid a penny in taxes in years thanks to his good pal the orange makeup wearing man.
How did you feel looking at your last grocery receipt? Or fill up at the gas station? Or your last doctor bill? Or your tax bill?
Stop defending corrupt billionaires. The world is like a resort for them. Everyone else is just the waitstaff. They dgaf about you, boy.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 6:02 am
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:06 am to CrystalPreserves
quote:He paid 11 billion dollars in Tax in 2021. IDGAF if he ever pays another penny in taxes or whether he gives a frick about me.
Elon is on track to be the world’s first trillionaire by 2027. You probably can’t wrap your Arkansas dropout brain around how much wealth that is. He hasn’t paid a penny in taxes in years thanks to his good pal the orange makeup wearing man.
Your commie buddies dgaf about me either, and contribute much less to the country.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:09 am to CrystalPreserves
That’s a great statement that enlightens us all about your intellectual ability
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:12 am to Onyx Aggie
Just say “I’m an enthusiastic billionaire cuck and I’m only two missed paychecks from poverty.”
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:13 am to Onyx Aggie
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He paid 11 billion dollars in Tax in 2021. IDGAF if he ever pays another penny in taxes or whether he gives a frick about me.
And let’s even begin to think about all of the millionaires he has created along the way….dude should get a lifetime tax exemption
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:17 am to Cheese Grits
Most data points show Dems being better for the American Economy.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:19 am to CrystalPreserves
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How did you feel looking at your last grocery receipt? Or fill up at the gas station? Or your last doctor bill? Or your tax bill?
the price of gas and groceries has no effect on me boy, i have excellent health insurance, and if i simply gave you what i paid in income taxes last year you'd be in the top 10% of wage earners and i'm not complaining as my effective tax rate has never been lower.
the difference between you and me boy is you think you'll never be rich, i always knew i would.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:20 am to CrystalPreserves
Worth and income are not close to being the same. That trillion you speak of is that in the bank ? Is it liquid or is it stock value based of performances of the many entities he has? You suggest he doesn’t write a check to Uncle Sam on 4/15 every year is comical, not in statement but in your rationale. His tax paid yearly is based on income. If his companies make money they pay taxes. If Elon takes income then he pays. Some people opt to take performance pay in stock value instead of money but until it’s liquid it’s not income. Would you prefer people pay taxes off their gross worth, net worth or yearly income?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:20 am to Geekboy
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Bill Clinton, working with a Republican Congress, presided over the most fiscally conservative federal budget period of the last 50 years.”
Clinton was forced into fiscal conservatism when Gingrich and the contract with America obliterated the Dems because Clinton’s policies were rejected in his first 2 years.
Had that not happened Clinton would’ve been another tax and spend liberal.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:20 am to The_Duke
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Most data points show Dems being better for the American Economy.
Oh do they? Well I’ll be darned, just like that. I guess that’s that.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 6:21 am
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