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re: Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:50 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:50 pm to mindbreaker
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never happened and is a made up fantasy by a known con man who hates losing.
What else did Morning Joe tell you?
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:50 pm to Jspaspa3303
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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Its not so much that I think he should move on, as much as I believe that the 2020 election should not necessarily be the only political message going into the midterms, or 2024. It is possible to pursue the fraud without making every election in the country a proxy vote on whether or not 2020 was legitimate. Doing so gives the media too much room to paint the entire right as deranged insurrectionists.
Go after the fraud at the state and local level, absolutely. But that has to be balanced with actually winning elections, or it does not matter. And in the context of gaining ground in the midterms, it means talking about issues that matter to the constituents in individual districts. Not all districts are equally invested in the 2020 election fraud issue.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:51 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Because I don't know if the election was stolen or not and neither do you.
Let me ask you something here.
What MORE evidence would you need to accept the obviousness of this stolen election? Be specific.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:51 pm to Jspaspa3303
We should NEVER stop talking about the integrity of voting.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:53 pm to mindbreaker
You are ATE UP with it, aintcha cuz?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Jspaspa3303
He’ll no.
The election system needs major reform. Transparency and impossibility of manipulation.
The election system needs major reform. Transparency and impossibility of manipulation.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Jspaspa3303
I'll be your huckleberry.
If he is going to talk about it, he needs to be pointed and articulate about it.
If he's just going to repeat the line "We won, we won bigly" it's just an empty bloviation. People for the most part already have their minds made up, there was cheating that put Biden in office, or there wasn't enough cheating to put Biden in office. He isn't going to change any hearts and minds by simply claiming it was stolen over and over. If he's going to talk aobut it, it needs to be in specific terms, like- "Here are fourteen sworn affidavits from the poll workers that said people were rescanning the same Biden ballots over and over, here they are, read them. Here is verified video showing poll workers handing out sharpies to voters when the instructions are to not use sharpies or they won't be scanned- all in heavy republican areas." Etc. He needs to echo what the experts have already uncovered, if he wants to actually convince anyone on the fence that it was stolen. But I don't think there's many people on the fence to begin with. And I don't think there are people on one side who will change their mind from what they already believe on the subject. Some, yes. How many, I don't think many.
If he is going to talk about it, he needs to be pointed and articulate about it.
If he's just going to repeat the line "We won, we won bigly" it's just an empty bloviation. People for the most part already have their minds made up, there was cheating that put Biden in office, or there wasn't enough cheating to put Biden in office. He isn't going to change any hearts and minds by simply claiming it was stolen over and over. If he's going to talk aobut it, it needs to be in specific terms, like- "Here are fourteen sworn affidavits from the poll workers that said people were rescanning the same Biden ballots over and over, here they are, read them. Here is verified video showing poll workers handing out sharpies to voters when the instructions are to not use sharpies or they won't be scanned- all in heavy republican areas." Etc. He needs to echo what the experts have already uncovered, if he wants to actually convince anyone on the fence that it was stolen. But I don't think there's many people on the fence to begin with. And I don't think there are people on one side who will change their mind from what they already believe on the subject. Some, yes. How many, I don't think many.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:54 pm to bayoudude
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No he should hammer the point and keep pressing till democrats pay for their crimes
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:59 pm to Jspaspa3303
I will not rest until this issue is addressed and the perpetrators are held accountable.
All of them. From Liz Cheney to Stacy Abrahams to Brad Raffensberger to Cindy McCain. Every. single. one.
If Trump moves on from it - he’s dead to me too.
All of them. From Liz Cheney to Stacy Abrahams to Brad Raffensberger to Cindy McCain. Every. single. one.
If Trump moves on from it - he’s dead to me too.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:02 pm to Jspaspa3303
No and needs to be talked about more. Whatever Trump does, he needs to stay on it. Whether he’s prez again or not, he will go down in history as the man who saved our country. Nov will be a blood bath for the Dems. The more I get out and talk to people, of all walks of life, outside my zone, the more I’m convinced.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:09 pm to SDVTiger
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Desantis cultists
Funniest shite I’ve read all day lol
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:10 pm to Jspaspa3303
frick no, if you move on it continues only pussies want to move on. Conservatives are frickING WEAK arse MOTHER frickERS!!!!!....fricking embarrassing
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:19 pm to Jspaspa3303
Trump should allow Congress to open up any election fraud investigation if they take back one or both chambers. They should go back and look at each election cycle going as far back as 2006 or 2008. Let’s see how many dead people was voting back then. If the R’s wanna catch election fraud or corruption then going back that far may be the best chance to catch it. Wasn’t anyone looking for any back then so they could have got sloppy on the way they hid it. It wouldn’t be a waste of time for R’s to look at everything and see how we can improve the system and cut out as much fraud as possible.
Trump should let the R’s in Congress do all this though. Trump himself should stay focused on the issues and tell people his solutions and policies to get us out of this mess the Dems has made. Trump should try and stay above it all and let his allies in Congress do all the elbow throwing about the 2020 election.
Trump should let the R’s in Congress do all this though. Trump himself should stay focused on the issues and tell people his solutions and policies to get us out of this mess the Dems has made. Trump should try and stay above it all and let his allies in Congress do all the elbow throwing about the 2020 election.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:24 pm to Jspaspa3303
If fraud isn't real, in correlation to 2020, then why did someone steal two access badges to enter a server room and delete a server database that contained the information a court ordered to be turned over in Arizona?
Explain that?
Explain that?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:27 pm to Jspaspa3303
Never until..,
They admit they cheated & steps are made to ensure it doesn’t ever happen again.
They admit they cheated & steps are made to ensure it doesn’t ever happen again.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:30 pm to 4LSU2
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We have to stand for something or we will fall for anything.
This guy approves
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:36 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Because I don't know if the election was stolen or not and neither do you.
thanks for making my point.
Our system is not transparent and not auditable.
We can't tell if our elections are credible. It's a system that invites fraud because fraud is so hard to detect.
That is a shitty system and Americans deserve better.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:42 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Because I don't know if the election was stolen or not and neither do you
Managing to look dumber with every post you make.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:44 pm to Jspaspa3303
Do y’all realize this isn’t a trump thing…..
it’s American election thing
It’ll happen again and continue to get worse. Perhaps Ben be the demise of this country
it’s American election thing
It’ll happen again and continue to get worse. Perhaps Ben be the demise of this country
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:51 pm to Paddyshack
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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Trumps latest is a civil suit vs CNN wherein he wins if you cannot prove he's lying when he says that even after ag barr told him there is no fraud in any cases he ran down
Trump still "believes". believes what? specifically? someone official must eventually ask in court. its going to fall apart under quesioning. colonel Jessup.
this I BELIEVE sets up trumps defense in the criminal cases.
at this moment trumps future depends on having deleted the visitor log, deleted the phone log and his security detail deleting the texts and phone and same coincidences by homeland and defense. "burn the evidence."
If Nixon had deleted the tape he would not have been found out.
CNN needs to push back the civil attack until doj is done. evidence will become known that CNN cannot compel.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 3:58 pm
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