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Who is to blame concerning the capitol riot?

Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14494 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:05 pm
Individuals
First and foremost the blame must fall on the individuals. People are not drones and robots who cannot control their own actions. The vast majority of those protesting had means, motive (at least in their mind) and opportunity to engage in such behavior and did not do so. At the end of the day people are responsible for their behavior.

Leaders spewing nonsense
Yes I mean Trump. I am not saying this elected didn't have irregularities, but before you claim the election is "stolen" you should have your ducks in a row with clearly articulated evidence. And add in a host of others who repeated incendiary statements either out of a sincere belief or political opportunism. Our Sen. Kennedy is a borderline case. His general rhetorical tone was similar to Trump's but his specific words are carefully chosen.


The media
Just as Trump and his crew did not do a good making their case, the media simple refused to hear the side of people airing their grievances. Of course the media has lost so much credibility with their one-sided, antagonistic coverage, I doubt that an even-handed investigation would have done much good. That said they should have still done it. (I could go on a longer screed that media are the biggest long-term problem behind all this, but I will leave that to another day.)

So at end of the day, individuals need to take it upon themselves to investigate claims using a variety of sources, not just those that tell you want you already think or want to hear. Leaders should use reason and evidence. And the media should just do their job of reporting without bias or agenda.

Posted by Floki
Member since Nov 2020
920 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:07 pm to
Whoever was in charge of election integrity in Atlanta, Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Leaders spewing nonsense Yes I mean Trump


What did he say that leads you to this, like specifically.

It seems we are going to repeat the Charlottesville speech debacle again. I would like to avoid that.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3491 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:07 pm to
Don't you me capitol mostly peaceful protest ?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7997 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:07 pm to
Wasn't a riot.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95477 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:08 pm to
Has to be the tamest goddamn riot I have seen the past 5 years.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166254 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Who is to blame concerning the capitol riot?


Mr. Global
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5621 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:08 pm to
as for the violent part it`s Antifa and whoever directs them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:08 pm to
All that Q shite and the people who rioted.

Everyone wants to blame who they want to blame, and not the people who actually did it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9359 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Has to be the tamest goddamn riot I have seen the past 5 years.

























Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:09 pm to
The individuals. Personal fricking responsibility is in short supply. I dont care what Trump said. It was always up to the individual.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67918 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:10 pm to
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The media



100%


If we had an honest and credible news media none of the last 12 months happens.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Leaders spewing nonsense
Yes I mean Trump. I am not saying this elected didn't have irregularities, but before you claim the election is "stolen" you should have your ducks in a row with clearly articulated evidence. And add in a host of others who repeated incendiary statements either out of a sincere belief or political opportunism. Our Sen. Kennedy is a borderline case. His general rhetorical tone was similar to Trump's but his specific words are carefully chosen.

Can you provide a quote or a link to what Trump said to instruct people to rush the capitol?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
Cool, now do BLMantifa. It isn't a real riot without arson and murder. Show the pros.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
The people who committed the election are to blame for all of it. That is who should beheld responsible.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10444 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
Years and years of incompetence and stealing of the American people by our Government.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Looks like the Battle of Helm's Deep
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:12 pm to
How many people were actually at these riots?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7189 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:12 pm to
Starts with media and politicians. Then throw in some conspiracy theorists and people fed up with being trampled on.

But if this was a “riot” what in the hell was all of last year?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36706 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:13 pm to
The people who did it. Personal responsibility has gone out the window.
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