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re: White House proposes eliminating Head Start funding as part of sweeping budget cuts

Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:44 pm to
Well good luck I hope it works out for you and your family.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:46 pm to
Btw please keep us posted on the future.

Much respect to you brother m
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2094 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:51 pm to
Will do, it’s our second stint with these kids along with their newborn sister. We had two of them for 11 months a couple of years back. They then went back to their methed out parents. Last June we got a call and we enthusiastically said yes to taking them in along with their sister. We will be legally fighting them in June to ensure that we can adopt
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3439 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:52 pm to
You are do stupid it’s incredible.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90673 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:52 pm to
Prayers to you my man!
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2094 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:24 pm to
Thank you, it’s not the easiest life, but helping others makes it worth it
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12861 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:28 pm to
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I know you're going to ignore this, but there's no way out of this mess without painful cuts. That goes for programs that both the left and the right support, but no one wants to hear that.


I don’t really care if they cut head start are not. It won’t affect my kids.However, it’s a trivial amount of money.

The painful cuts you are referring to can only come from two places. Entitlements (SS and Medicare) and the Pentagon. The rest of the budget is just the outside of the onion.

Trump doesn’t have the balls to do that and neither do his supporters. So we will continue to kick the can down the road.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7959 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:44 pm to
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I’ve already stated that numerous times but to reiterate my experience has shown that non verbal children became verbal. I had interactions with teachers who specialize in things like helping foster children. I’m a better foster parent because of the instruction I got from Head Start employees


So no idea why so many fail?

Even in the studies listed, only a small percent do better than their non head start peers.

Not to be personal, but
Do you work full time?

Many parents in head Start use it as daycare, and don't seem to put in nearly as much effort as you do.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10610 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:44 pm to
Good. It’s not helping as the head start just gets wasted in too many public education school districts that are too focused on lowering standards for some, vilifying white males, and grooming kids into becoming alphabets instead of actually educating our kids properly.

quote:

inb4 I voted for this.

The country did vote for this.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Deaux boi
BFE
Member since Jun 2016
396 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:53 pm to
My wife is employed by heard start.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7739 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:58 pm to
Agree. It used to be corp sponsored. It is mostly a babysitting service for teenagers who just have babies because its cool. They drop the kid off in the morning and spend their day doing nothing but maybe getting pregnant again. Viscious cycle
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:00 am to
I've also read about studies that show that, after the fifth grade it thereabouts, there is no statistical difference between Head Start kids, and kids who didn't attend Head Start.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
3067 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:27 am to
quote:

Kids living in poverty are the majority of kids in Head Starts.


Why would they need it? Joetato told us poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7959 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I've also read about studies that show that, after the fifth grade it thereabouts, there is no statistical difference between Head Start kids, and kids who didn't attend Head Start.


Having read a number of papers now;

Even the positive studies show a small but statistically significant.
In cubbies link it was only significant in vocabulary for urban and word comprehension for rural.
Or something like that.

One can p hack a small impact into and out of significance.

Whatever is true, it's small.

The vast majority get no benefit.

It seems like many parents use it as day care, and get zero benefit for their kids.

Others fully utilize the resources and get a real benefit.

If you took out the day care parents who don't care about their kids I bet the rest show improvements.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37576 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:14 am to
Even as a cut, it's window dressing....and meaningless when compared to the programs that truly need to be addressed like entitlements for Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13901 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:19 am to

AI Overview:
quote:

The effectiveness of the Head Start program is a subject of ongoing debate and research, with both successes and criticisms. While some studies have shown positive short-term gains in pre-academic skills and behavior, long-term benefits are often less clear or have diminished over time. Critics argue that the program fails to reach all intended beneficiaries and that improvements in early childhood education should focus on broader reforms, not just Head Start.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89810 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:23 am to
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However, it’s a trivial amount of money.



People have said this about a thousand other things they want to cut. It all adds up.


quote:

Even as a cut, it's window dressing....and meaningless


Case in point.







This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 7:26 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:25 am to
quote:

Even as a cut, it's window dressing....and meaningless when compared to the programs that truly need to be addressed like entitlements for Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare.


And when they make cuts to those programs, you’ll complain.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98150 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:26 am to
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And when they make cuts to those programs, you’ll complain.


100% kiwitard and 4kommies will make endless threads about how those cuts are literally killing ppl
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12713 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Good. It’s not helping as the head start just gets wasted in too many public education school districts that are too focused on lowering standards for some, vilifying white males, and grooming kids into becoming alphabets instead of actually educating our kids properly.


Depending on your area Head Start is actually administered by local government instead of the school district.


I know this is the case in Lafourche and Terrebonne Parishes, not sure if this is state or region specific.

Now PreK is administered in the public schools.

Instead of going after Head Start how about cutting all the government programs that prioritize funding for immigrants or children of immigrants who get additional funding and subsidies like free uniforms through a program called McKinney Vento. In some districts, they actually try to recruit students for these programs so they can get extra federal funding for each student. Some even have an administrator managing the program. Not sure how much the feds give per student, but to have someone or a group of teachers making close to 60k a year for a few hundred thousand a year doesn’t make economic sense unless the payback is much higher.
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