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re: When did our culture quit producing men that would “do what’s right”?

Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by TigerMikeAtl
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
1974 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:42 pm to
I agree...

I've long said that the education system in this Country has been infected with an immoral and Marxist/socialistic agenda. Educate the young in your teachings so that the grow to oppose and rebel against those who differ from what they've been indoctrinated into believing!
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:46 pm to
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Your dad sounds mentally ill.

To only see things in binary is a sub human trait.


When I was a young man NOBODY that I knew thought this way. So sad that when I person has morals in todays world they are ridiculed.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:49 pm to
But you ignored my examples. Are they binary or not? You don’t believe there’s such a thing as clear lines when it comes to values?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:49 pm to
It wasn't a very good one anyways.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Please elaborate then


I was making the point that despite the claim that binary ethics are somehow sub-human, most people believe in black and white, at least sometimes.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:53 pm to
Hush, adults are talking.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6936 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

But you ignored my examples. Are they binary or not? You don’t believe there’s such a thing as clear lines when it comes to values?


There might be clear lines an individual believes in but it is specific only to them.

There are no universal values that are absolutely correct.

Murder is probably the most grievous example but there are a bunch of soldiers walking around right now who put a bullet in another human.

What is an absolute value?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:57 pm to
Then you should probably present some adult ideas.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Please explain.


It's unfortunate that you'd boil the entirety of human morality to a single sentence.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:59 pm to
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Now...as an adult with kids...I understand and realize that all we have is our God given sense of right and wrong to guide us.


That sense of right and wrong is completely subjective. So at the end of the day, there's really no such thing as a collective and universal right and wrong.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

What is an absolute value?



If you’re a nihilist then your position makes perfect sense and answers the op’s question. We’ve gotten to this point because people like yourself are more numerous.

I’ve never met an actual nihilist, though.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Hush, adults are talking



Oh boy, y’all just dog whistled Dawkin Hitchens into the thread...aka DB. Lol!
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14198 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:24 pm to
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That sense of right and wrong is completely subjective


Actually it’s not.

You don’t abuse your position in govt for personal gain, you don’t lie, you don’t kill people for personal gain, you don’t use a govt position for personal gain, you adhere to the oath of office you take....

Should I continue?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Oh boy, y’all just dog whistled Dawkin Hitchens into the thread...aka DB. Lol!


Nah, Hitchens was intelligent. Angry and wrong, but he at least argued reasonably. Dawkins less so.

DB is neither.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

That sense of right and wrong is completely subjective


Are you trolling me.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14198 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:34 pm to
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So at the end of the day, there's really no such thing as a collective and universal right and wrong.


Well....I’m not a religious guy by any stretch. But as a basis it hard to argue against the 10 Commandments as the fundamental rule of law that has evolved from antiquity to outline the rules of western civilization.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:37 pm
Posted by KANDUUU
Member since Sep 2019
472 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:35 pm to
I put a lot of blame on church's chasing the bodies to fill coffers for bigger churches, etc.

Growing up there was nothing that deserved more respect than the House of God. My dad made sure we understood that. You wore your "Sunday best", etc. Now you go to church with people looking like the just rolled out of bed or hanging out at the mall. The church use to be our guiding moral compass, and it no longer is. Therefore, how do people learn the moral decorum our society use to have??

Fore goodness sake, I heard that there is a fairly large amount of young people that don't know who Moses is. Ie...they don't know what the 10 Commandments are. The foundation of our moral compass.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:42 pm to
Liberals have controlled the education system for decades, they started to indoctrinate young boys in the PC and moral relativism.
Posted by KANDUUU
Member since Sep 2019
472 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:46 pm to
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Liberals have controlled the education system for decades, they started to indoctrinate young boys in the PC and moral relativism.


I agree, but the church let themselves get dupped. Acting like Dems when it comes to the Constitution, and it being a fluid document. The church has let the Bible to be treated the same way. The gay attack on Christianity is a pure sign of that.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 3:34 am to
2008-2016 precisely

Thanks obama
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